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cdwalkley":10f76bsy said:
Oh, sorry, I think I misunderstood what you were asking! :(

Sort of.. but it did make me look right to the end of the PDF where I did see the silly rule so you indirectly helped show me the proof of the insanity. :)

I think these silly rules might be fun once in a while after a few beers but it could end up being another point of irritation outside of a tight knit group of players.
 

bug16

Member
The silly rules might be fun for a casual game with a few beers but I can see the novelty wearing off very quickly. I suspect that KoW will continue to pick up players.
 

cdwalkley

Member
I think they will only apply to the old figures. The new range will probably not have such silliness. That's just my gut feeling about it. After all, GW would rather everyone ends up buying the new figures...
 

Scalene

Member
I know little about any edition except 2nd and 3rd, but AoS doesn't sound much like either of them, and the models don't look similar in style. It smacks of a collectible card game to me, where you can use your old stuff, but it won't be as good. Oldhammer to me is about narrative and realism (the models were not steroid riddled super heroes with ridiculous horns (apart from thrud)). Taking away tournament army lists doesn't restore the innovation and the human scale of those earlier editions.
 

mbh

Member
definitely not talking about the models, more the feel of the game. Obviously the models are nothing like the 80s.

older models are not weaker so far. It's kinda screwed but you can make some really powerful "armies" with the existing range.

I don't think 8th edition or age of sigmar is really oldhammer but this feels closer. Scenarios, no point system, goofy extra rues. idk.
 

mbh

Member
There's nothing wrong with tournaments IMHO. It's too bad they couldn't accommodate both groups.
 
mbh":ir0ljp1y said:
am I crazy or do these rules feel way closer to oldhammer compared to 8th edition?

I think we're confusing a lack of army books with the Oldhammer mentality. They're not necessarily the same thing.
 

mbh

Member
stone cold lead":2o5z5jlr said:
mbh":2o5z5jlr said:
am I crazy or do these rules feel way closer to oldhammer compared to 8th edition?

I think we're confusing a lack of army books with the Oldhammer mentality. They're not necessarily the same thing.

I'm probably wrong

It just feels more old school to me than 8th, which kinda morphed into a tournament system IMO.
 

cdwalkley

Member
mbh":3cyl5t9t said:
stone cold lead":3cyl5t9t said:
mbh":3cyl5t9t said:
am I crazy or do these rules feel way closer to oldhammer compared to 8th edition?

I think we're confusing a lack of army books with the Oldhammer mentality. They're not necessarily the same thing.

I'm probably wrong

It just feels more old school to me than 8th, which kinda morphed into a tournament system IMO.

I don't know. To me it feels like some half-baked, dumbed down ruleset to pin miniature sales on. It's like, by giving them away for free, that GW are making the ultimate in statements that they are not a game company, just a miniatures company. Which I believe they already say in their corporate material.

Disclaimer: I love 3rd edition because of its detailed somewhat clunky rules, so I'm happy to accept other opinions exist on this matter!
 

mbh

Member
interesting

Do they not realize that they've been a game company for a long time now? Customers buy units of 50 clan rats because of the game. That wouldn't happen without the rules. They would sell much less.
 
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