BOYL The Engines of Avalone Siege game

[Thantsants]

I reckon the siege mentality has me in its grasp and rationing is on my mind!

I wouldn't say it's all quite finished - there's a few bits and pieces that want touching up...

I've been dead organised and written up a painting schedule (not at all like Rimmer's revision timetable) so it should all (mostly!) get done in time. Plus I've got a pretty quick and cheaty method for painting up lots of Gobbo's up quickly involving drybrushing with beige and ink washing the colour and shading back in.

I'll post an army thread up on Sunday if no one else has dived in beforehand.

 

[Mr Furious]

Great ideas chaps I don't mind limiting forces, points or army lists (will probably create one anyway!)

I'm looking at:

Cavalry
2 x 20 Hohensknechtes (+2 shock)
2 x 6 pistoliers (count as Kregsritter)
2 x 6 Kregsritter (mounted crossbow)
3 x 20 Stadtsknechtes
More units if need be and may break up Stadtsknechtes into smaller units.

Infantry
3 x 10 Armbrustschutzen (crossbow)
1 x 10 Hakbutschutzen (arquebus)
1 x 20 Nuln pike
1 x 10 Helblitzen (halberds)
1 x 5 Bergjaeger

Artillery
2 x 6 man bombards
4 x Reiks kanone batterien (3-4 man cannons)
2 x 3 man mortars

Now I just need a time machine to paint them to a standard I can live with.

 

[Mr Furious]

Maybe we could do with a separate thread detailing exactly what people are planning to bring?

Great idea. Happy to PM or list.

 

[lenihan]

Maybe we could do with a separate thread detailing exactly what people are planning to bring?

Good idea, I will wait for that thread!

 

[Harry]

@Thantsants.
Having just read Mr Furious's post above ....
Is this siege set in the Empire or Bretonnia?
Juts need to know where to focus my painting efforts.
I can do either.
Cheers.
H

 

[Mister Rab]

Wherever it's set, I hope it can accommodate my small but enthusiastic force of Bret foot knights, handgunners and peasants, plus a pair of little cannon. I need to get painting

 

[Thantsants]

I think we originally thought of it as being somewhere in the Border Princes. Having perused the map, either Karak Hirn or perhaps some unnamed outpost guarding the approaches to Mad Dog Pass would suit.



That way we are close enough to the Moot, Bretonnia, the Empire and the Badlands to feasibly have a mix of Halflings, Bretonnians, Empire, Dwarf and Wood Elf troops defending and all manner of baddies attacking.

I'm sure the defenders would be rather worried about the threat to Bugman's Brewery too!

link to the map

 

[Harry]

OK thats fine.

I'll add some bugmans rangers to my painting pile.

 

[Thantsants]

Great stuff - I might do up a little unit of Iron Breakers for the goodies if I get time - they are mostly chainmail or beard so shouldn't take too long.

 

[lenihan]

Will take a bit of imagination to figure out how/why my evil Fimir are over there, but I'm up for the challenge

 

[Thantsants]

Busman's holiday to Black Water?

 

[Mr Furious]

I think it was Border Princes or the Badlands? Some far flung outpost of civilisation...

Ruminating over the army lists, maybe it would be an idea to allocate a general guideline for points for both forces (attackers and defenders) and then each side work collaboratively to populate that force within a game plan and up to the maximum points allowance in secret from the other side...so that on the day the attackers have a tactical surprise, and the defenders do not know what forces they are facing until they rock up to the battlements. Just an idea.

(My mind is going ten different ways already at T's horde listing)

 

[lenihan]

Ruminating over the army lists, maybe it would be an idea to allocate a general guideline for points for both forces (attackers and defenders) and then each side work collaboratively to populate that force within a game plan and up to the maximum points allowance in secret from the other side...so that on the day the attackers have a tactical surprise, and the defenders do not know what forces they are facing until they rock up to the battlements. Just an idea.

Hmm, yes, I quite like that idea!

 

[Mr Furious]

Will take a bit of imagination to figure out how/why my evil Fimir are over there, but I'm up for the challenge

Lots of coastal marshes and stretches of forest nearby. Maybe they need some rustic wimin folk?

 

[Thantsants]

I'm not too worried about giving away troop dispositions - Orcs aren't well known for their tactical subtlety! I'd imagine that between the Halflings and Wood Elves present in the defender's forces that there would be some good intelligence from scouts on the Orcs' troop movements - not something the Orcs would necessarily want to hide for its demoralising effect on the defenders.

Remember too that the siege would be pretty well advanced in game terms. I suppose the surprise would come from what direction and what strength the Orcs would attack from - Masses of Goblins and regular troops whilst the elites hit a weak point in the defences elsewhere.

Don't forget we haven't heard anything from Snickit about his Skaven forces or what Erny has lurking in his horde...

Who's to say my Orcs haven't got any Chaos Dwarf military advisors or mining specialists up their sleeve?

Having said all that I appreciate your point Mr F - we all like surprises

Perhaps the bad guys could let me or Erny know what they're bringing and we could agree some kind of unit cap that is allowed on the table at any one time - once we know this we can let the goodies know what their unit cap is. Any surplus units on either side would go into a reinforcement pool to be brought on as other units are destroyed.

 

[Vyper]

Perhaps people should just be encouraged to bring 'blocks' of 500pts. So an 'evil' player may say "I'm bringing two blocks for instance, one will be orcs, one will be chaos dwarves".

This would give the umpires some kind of overview of what will be happening without forcing anyone to commit to a rigid army plan. Also it would be easier to say that the defenders should just out number attackers 2 blocks to 1 and we need x blocks of reserves to make up the difference? This will probably be easier to manage than an outright points cap as everyone just has groups of troops they could add or remove from the fight in chunks without having to tally up points on the day!

Thoughts?

 

[Harry]

I honestly think we should all just rock up .... slap ALL our toys on the table ....
.... and see what happens.

I can't even believe anyone is even worried about this.

Don't care if I end up outnumbered 5:1
They will sing songs about our valiant defence of the homesteads for years.

BRING IT ON!




(Secretly planning on painting a squadron of Elf dragons to come to the rescue at the eleventh hour. )

 

[Thantsants]

Well you all know what I'm bringing and if it comes down to Newark with me it's going on the table!

I haven't mentioned my elite legion of Snotlings... that I probably won't have time to paint...

 

[Just John]

I honestly think we should all just rock up .... slap ALL our toys on the table ....
.... and see what happens.

I can't even believe anyone is even worried about this.

Don't care if I end up outnumbered 5:1
They will sing songs about our valiant defence of the homesteads for years.

BRING IT ON!

What he said

(Secretly planning on painting a squadron of Elf dragons to come to the rescue at the eleventh hour. )

No, no, no. Don't you know your Tolkien - if there are hobbits on the table its the eagles that come to the rescue

 

[Vyper]

I honestly think we should all just rock up .... slap ALL our toys on the table ....
.... and see what happens.

I now feel ashamed. This is of course the correct response.