TheOttoVonBismark's Oldhammer Slann WIP

[theottovonbismark]

I hope JJ makes sure to bring enough garlic and parsley with his halflings...

Anyway, I belive updating my bretonnians with some added giant frogs could be a good thing considering the fun they must be on the tabletop

Shhh Bretonnians shouldn't use Giant Frogs - thats a RACIST hang up from the days when GW's political correctness division seems to have been run by a 14 year old English middle class schoolboy. Notice how only the French and Slann armies gets to use Giant Frogs!

And to make matters ever worse did you know that there is only 1 race that gets to use Giant Snails....

 

[Asslessman]

And to make matters ever worse did you know that there is only 1 race that gets to use Giant Snails....

Being french in a british wargaming world is enough of a handicap, you got to have compensation
The late version of brets (2004 or something) still has some snails and frogs on the sprues to be used.

 

[theottovonbismark]

Jesus they include frogs and snails in a modern kit! That's pushing it too far.

 

[Asslessman]

yep but they don't have the courage to make it big enough :

 

[theottovonbismark]

WTF! Is that a frog on a stick? I use the word "on" here to mean having a stick inserted in your sphincter beast!

This is pretty scandalous behaviour. I wonder how the french tabloid industry would react to it.

 

[Asslessman]

WTF! Is that a frog on a stick? I use the word "on" here to mean having a stick inserted in your sphincter beast!

This is pretty scandalous behaviour. I wonder how the french tabloid industry would react to it.

It's been busy with our president riding his scooter lately... the animal protection league did not say a word about it though.

Now I'm sorry becauase this lovely thread of yours is derailing and I'm not helping to prevent it (again).

 

[theottovonbismark]

Meh, don't worry about derailing my threads. I just go flow with the bullshit.

 

[Aiteal]

Wow, you live long enough and sooner or later you get to see all the all the Realm of Chaos table rolls enacted with painted models! Chaos Slann offer some fairly unique modeling opportunities - I always wanted to roll some myself but the one time I played RoC I ended up with a Dark Elf Champion and a Jabberwock with a mutation that transfered its mouth to it's groin, ho-hum.

That's an unfortunate roll for mutations.
I feel I got a bit luckier, so I've earmarked Toltec from the later c32 range for the leader, he has a fairly flat back I can pin some wings onto, as he's a Tzeentch champ I'm really keen on using feathered wings, but the only decent ones I have belong to the coatl and old chimera models, so I am loath to use them. I rolled 2 small starter warbands, one Nurgle and one Tzeentch, I cheated a little and swapped round their second rolls for followers and ended up with a very appropriate Slann leader, 4 Slann and 4 Lizardmen Tzeentch WB and a Human leader, 5 humans and 4 pestigor Nurgle warband. All I need to do now is source one or two more of the old pre-slotta lizardmen and I have all the minis covered.

 

[theottovonbismark]

That's an unfortunate roll for mutations.
I feel I got a bit luckier, so I've earmarked Toltec from the later c32 range for the leader, he has a fairly flat back I can pin some wings onto, as he's a Tzeentch champ I'm really keen on using feathered wings, but the only decent ones I have belong to the coatl and old chimera models, so I am loath to use them. I rolled 2 small starter warbands, one Nurgle and one Tzeentch, I cheated a little and swapped round their second rolls for followers and ended up with a very appropriate Slann leader, 4 Slann and 4 Lizardmen Tzeentch WB and a Human leader, 5 humans and 4 pestigor Nurgle warband. All I need to do now is source one or two more of the old pre-slotta lizardmen and I have all the minis covered.

Not sure how rare the old Lizardmen are, I was going to bulk up the rest of mine with some "Bretonain era" Lizardmen. The older ones if technically not perfect sculpts are often much more characterful. Will be interesting to see some Chaos Slann, some day I might even get around to adding some spikes to some of mine and throwing in my lot with the forces of disorder .

Anyways here is the test model for the Human Slaves unit, more detailed images on blog:

 

[Aiteal]

I've only started looking out for the old lizardmen recently, and unfortunately the only auctions on ebay were for uncatalogued models, and they went for silly money.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Citadel-1980s-Uncatalogued-C19-Lizardman-Priest-Shaman-A-/201034357232
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=201034361699&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:GB:3160
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380838334501&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:GB:3160

I'll have to hold out and see if I can find something more suited to my pocket, I have one or two old pre-slotta lizardmen currently as a start, if not I have 4 snakemen that could do in a pinch.
I love the slave model, certainly more dynamic than the original sculpts, which is no bad thing if the fluff about them being hopped up on strange brews by the warrior priests is to be relied upon. Did you model the collar yourself?
I'll have to steal that idea at some point, I couldn't find any bald headed models without steroid induced physiques, but you seem to have sorted that problem out for me

 

[theottovonbismark]

I've only started looking out for the old lizardmen recently, and unfortunately the only auctions on ebay were for uncatalogued models, and they went for silly money.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Citadel-1980s-Uncatalogued-C19-Lizardman-Priest-Shaman-A-/201034357232
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=201034361699&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:GB:3160
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380838334501&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:GB:3160

I'll have to hold out and see if I can find something more suited to my pocket, I have one or two old pre-slotta lizardmen currently as a start, if not I have 4 snakemen that could do in a pinch.
I love the slave model, certainly more dynamic than the original sculpts, which is no bad thing if the fluff about them being hopped up on strange brews by the warrior priests is to be relied upon. Did you model the collar yourself?
I'll have to steal that idea at some point, I couldn't find any bald headed models without steroid induced physiques, but you seem to have sorted that problem out for me

Pricey buggers aren't they. The Snakemen are great models, I would just use them.

It's nice to have some non-steroid nearly naked hoomans to work with, thanks the Perrys! Collar, ankle shackle and lead are just quick green stuff jobs. I will sculpt them before I put on the arms next time

 

[Aiteal]

too pricey yeah
but I did get this guy in the post this morning for cheaper than a lot of those lizardmen

 

[Goblinlee]

I like your Slave model, very nicely done. A lot more animated in his movement that the 1980's ones.

@Aiteal: Excellent, a Guggl Greenwake, always good to have him in a Slann army
With the Snakemen you could mount them on 40mm square bases and use them as Troglodytes?

 

[Blue in VT]

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Cheers,

Blue

 

[theottovonbismark]

Cheers for de-spamming Blue!

I like your Slave model, very nicely done. A lot more animated in his movement that the 1980's ones.

@Aiteal: Excellent, a Guggl Greenwake, always good to have him in a Slann army
With the Snakemen you could mount them on 40mm square bases and use them as Troglodytes?

Cheers! The 1980's ones were sadly rather undeveloped (like a lot of the Slann range) considering the excellent concept sketches John Blanche produced. Well I am grateful for the sketches and will put them to very good use indeed!

I must get my hands one those old Slann classics...well perhaps I should just paint the ones I have first

 

[Thantsants]

I don't think I've commented on this thread yet, although I have been admiring your work - very remiss of me!

Absolutely love what you're doing Otto - stand outs for me have to be the Cold One Rider and the Lobotomised slave.

The yellow of the rider and the dynamic basing are superb on the Cold One Rider and not sure if it was you or someone else who has recommended using those Perry plastics for slaves before but yours has certainly inspired me to try something similar - bit cheaper than trawling ebay for the pot-bellied fellas!

 

[Goblinlee]

@TheOttovonBismark
I'm a little confused, do you have the the John Blanche concept sketches, or were you asking for them? I have a copy to upload if you wanted them.

All this talk of Slann is great, nice to see them being re-visited by so many people.

Personally, I might put my 40k project on hold and go back to the Slann

As regards miniatures, I am sure you all already know that Reaper Miniatures do a some Aztec/Maya looking Frogmen, as well as various Lizardmen. I don't have any so cannot vouch for them, but being Reaper they are probably fine.

 

[theottovonbismark]

I don't think I've commented on this thread yet, although I have been admiring your work - very remiss of me!

Absolutely love what you're doing Otto - stand outs for me have to be the Cold One Rider and the Lobotomised slave.

The yellow of the rider and the dynamic basing are superb on the Cold One Rider and not sure if it was you or someone else who has recommended using those Perry plastics for slaves before but yours has certainly inspired me to try something similar - bit cheaper than trawling ebay for the pot-bellied fellas!

Cheers Thantsants, always nice to hear from a fellow Lotus Lord. Why it was largely your blog which inspired me to dust off (literally) the old dormant Slann horde in the first place. They never did get a fair share of attention from the studio back in they day, but sure we can change all that now .

The dynamic basing arose from a desire to get the old Cold One model to look a little more animated. I imagine that they are good for picking their way through the thick jungles and undergrowth so I tried to base it to get it to look like it was doing just that. The real trick now is to figure out how to get the same vibe in a unit of them. I am quite the fan of your own Cold One cavalry with their pimped up saddles they look the biz.

Probably someone else mentioned the Perry plastics for slaves. I didn't actually buy them for that in the first place. I was after a load of African looking heads for another Warhammer project. It took a little while for the penny to drop that they would make for good slaves. Perry kits are just awesome, I think I will end up buying their Napoleonic plastics just for the bits! You could make a fine unit of Rough Riders from those French heavy cavalry for example (if you weren't already committed to making a load of Slann troops).

@ Goblinlee: I have the source artwork from a quick Google search, thanks for the offer. In terms of other manufacturers...to be honest they just don't hit the mark for me. I would prefer to paint the Foundry Aztec's green if only Foundry did a range of Aztec frogs *sigh*.

 

[Thantsants]

I think I kind of went with the listless stupid aspect of the Cold Ones - just before they are goaded into a frenzy by their riders ready for the charge! The saddles were fun and quite a steep learning curve - the unit is definitely staying 5 strong for now! I look forward to seeing the rest of your unit come together.

I must get back to the Slann some day soon - got a unit of 20 Spawn Band - well a mixed bag of all sorts of warriors to represent Gurgyll Greenwakes bandits anyhow. I do like the idea of them as desperado's in what is basically a post apocalyptic world for them.

Karnac's Lizardmen raiders and a host of lesser Tom Meier Lizardmen and larger Troglodytes also await the lash of the brush, not to mention some more gribblies.

Might pop over to the Perry website too - Rough Riders too you say?

 

[theottovonbismark]

Slann don't get access to any artillery .....but they do get Saber Toothed tigers :

Scale:

Pang Tang tigers are about the correct size being nearly as tall as an ooman.