RIP Warhammer

[whiskey priest]

I don't think it really is that relevant to Oldhammer

It is however interesting enough and worth talking about

I don't know who Chico is talking about

I quite liked the pictures of goats

 

[mbh]

We should all aspire to be less sensitive about what's irrelevant/tangential/highly relevant. Or too definitional about "Oldhammer." Consider that some may simply enjoy playing contemporary editions with old school models. Our playing contemporary models and rules but with an old school emphasis on narrative instead of winning. I'll not suggest that those folks are "oldhammering it wrong", even though it may be different from what I do.

On topic, I find it difficult to believe that a profitable business unit and property would simply be jettisoned (or at least of sufficient size - compare to Specialist Games). But I can envision neglect as more resources are directed to more profitable units.

and again off topic . . . What's the joke about goats?

that's the approach I take.

Old school models with the current rules. I love the older models more than some of the past editions of the games. I played most of the past editions and I think the current set of rules is very fun for my play style.

 

[Fimm McCool]

Just let's not get into too much nitty gritty as to what defines 'Oldhammer' please. Trying to nail down definitions is doing a good job of killing off the Steampunk fraternity. I say if it sniffs of Oldhammer it probably is and discussions as to the future of the company which created Warhammer, however long ago and however that company has taken its direction since, seem relevant to me.

There, I wasn't going to rise to it but I don't want to see another fun group become all serious about what's in and what's out.

 

[Count Von Bruno]

Well I think It's relevant and it looks like many others do as well.

In the end It's simple really if people don't like what others post just Block them and you don't have to read there roundabout dribble, I have one person blocked on this forum (And on FB too) so i don't have to read there bitching (I bet you all know who I'm referring too).

You blocked me? You whisked off with my comeliest Goat and then block me?
That's justified bitching, good sir

 

[Chico]

You blocked me? You whisked off with my comeliest Goat and then block me?
That's justified bitching, good sir

That was a Goat? I thought it was your sister

 

[Count Von Bruno]

She was in the other pen, thankfully!

The one you absconded with's name is Cecil

 

[lenihan]

Here are my own thoughts, for what it's worth:

http://wheretheseapoursout.blogspot.co. ... world.html

 

[mbh]

nice post

it would be very interesting to see what warhammer players would do without gw.

 

[Just John]

Well the unsubstantiated rumours have been confirmed by GW. It all kicks off on Feb 1 and they're using lots of really positive adjectives so it must be a great thing. Right?

 

[phreedh]

Well the unsubstantiated rumours have been confirmed by GW. It all kocks off on Feb 1 and they're using lots of really positive adjectives so it must be a hreat thing. Right?

Huh?

 

[Vogon]

Well the unsubstantiated rumours have been confirmed by GW. It all kocks off on Feb 1 and they're using lots of really positive adjectives so it must be a hreat thing. Right?

Huh?

He means it's now on the GW website that changes to white dwarf are happening "it's official"

White Dwarf is going weekly and there'll be a new monthly magazine called Warhammer visions. Much positive spin has been put on it on the White Dwarf Daily blog post.

Cheers

Vogon.

P.S. Nice Post Lenihan

 

[Blue in VT]

Well the unsubstantiated rumours have been confirmed by GW. It all kicks off on Feb 1 and they're using lots of really positive adjectives so it must be a great thing. Right?

MOAR Positive words....just like MOAR SKULLZ makes everything better...

In the grand scheme of things I don't really give a shit about WD anymore...and haven't since 1993...same for the current rule set. It wouldn't make me sad if the whole company folded...they've been dead to me for years.

Cheers,

Blue

 

[theottovonbismark]

Well the unsubstantiated rumours have been confirmed by GW. It all kicks off on Feb 1 and they're using lots of really positive adjectives so it must be a great thing. Right?

MOAR Positive words....just like MOAR SKULLZ makes everything better...

In the grand scheme of things I don't really give a shit about WD anymore...and haven't since 1993...same for the current rule set. It wouldn't make me sad if the whole company folded...they've been dead to me for years.

Cheers,

Blue

I tend towards agreement with you Blue when it comes to WD and latter day rulesets. In fairness not everything they do is shit, although everything seems rather overpriced. It is interesting to think of a world where they did fold although it is unlikely to my mind.

I remember bitching about GW to a rather smart friend of mine who is familiar with GW and the world of gaming some years ago where I was arguing that they had lost it and they would be buggered in the future. He shot me down with one point. "Lets look at the stock values then shall we Seán, yep seem to me like they are doing pretty brilliantly in the grand scheme of things".

And he is correct: https://www.google.com/finance?cid=667828

I think we just have to face the fact that we are not really the demographic they are after and get on with our lives. We have our own Oldhammer grass roots movement rolling now which dare I say has the potential to surpass the inspiring stuff from the old times. We have the maturity, interest and time to hone the craft of Oldhammer into something freaking awesome we can be proud of being a part of and will live forever in the cloud hopefully inspiring future Oldhammerers.

 

[Asslessman]

I tend towards agreement with you Blue when it comes to WD and latter day rulesets. In fairness not everything they do is shit, although everything seems rather overpriced. It is interesting to think of a world where they did fold although it is unlikely to my mind.

I remember bitching about GW to a rather smart friend of mine who is familiar with GW and the world of gaming some years ago where I was arguing that they had lost it and they would be buggered in the future. He shot me down with one point. "Lets look at the stock values then shall we Seán, yep seem to me like they are doing pretty brilliantly in the grand scheme of things".

And he is correct: https://www.google.com/finance?cid=667828

I think we just have to face the fact that we are not really the demographic they are after and get on with our lives. We have our own Oldhammer grass roots movement rolling now which dare I say has the potential to surpass the inspiring stuff from the old times. We have the maturity, interest and time to hone the craft of Oldhammer into something freaking awesome we can be proud of being a part of and will live forever in the cloud hopefully inspiring future Oldhammerers.

every word of this. Spot on.

Just look at your painting range, just open your drawers or cases full pof lead (plastic and resin too) and browse through your library, just look at this forum... I know there is a critical mass after which oldhammering will get a bit harder but come on...,
I say Warhammer has never been more alive than now.

 

[Lord Chaotl Oml]

GW really seems to have some problems:

http://masterminis.blogspot.de/2014/01/the-future-of-games-days-games.html

 

[theottovonbismark]

I am not an economist but it's not a surprise that the stock price would drop given poor quarterly performance, that's pretty standard in the world of stocks.

I would estimate that the timing of the re-jinking of White Dwarf was very poorly chosen and as a result has generated so much negative sentiment in the media this could be contributing to the rate at which investors are selling out their stocks. The reason for this might be that a lot of investment groups are now using computer based sentiment analysis techniques which would be indicating a lot of negative sentiment from news sources, twitter feeds, blogs and any other sources of analytical data judged relevant by the system operators collected from these low latency news sources. I really wouldn't read too much into the drop at this stage, there is every likelihood that the price will rebound in the near future to a more realistic price - probably not back to the 800 seen in October though.


For example articles like this: http://www.rttnews.com/2252453/games-wo ... gn=sitemap

Get picked up by investor systems and would flag that something was wrong with the stocks leading to the offloading of stocks. Likely at some stage it will bottom out and investors will sense that the stock price is undervalued vs. the profits and it will go up again. The trick is buying in at the lowest point from an investor standpoint.

 

[Lord Chaotl Oml]

A small drop would not have surprised me either but it looked immense to me (I´m not a specialist for such things). And I wondered, shouldn`t the time before christmas see an increase of sales? Maybe not big enough and a new release nearly every month maybe wasnt the best decision.



At least I bought something from them in december, for the first time in years

 

[mbh]

I just saw orlygg's most recent comment posted on this blog post.

I hope this thread wasn't part of the problem. I certainly wasn't trying to bash his opinion. I just thought it made interesting discussion.

 

[theottovonbismark]

I just saw orlygg's most recent comment posted on this blog post.

I hope this thread wasn't part of the problem. I certainly wasn't trying to bash his opinion. I just thought it made interesting discussion.

I certainly didn't think you were trying to bash anyone, discussion is healthy . It makes for a very interesting discussion. I notice that they closed at 551 on the Friday 17th. Interestingly the Google Stock ticker is indicating a price of 545 at the moment. Next week will be very interesting to see what happens on the stock price - I think it will start to creep back up next week so long as there is not too much negative sentiment abounding, but then that's merely a guess on my part.

 

[Orlygg]

I just saw orlygg's most recent comment posted on this blog post.

I hope this thread wasn't part of the problem. I certainly wasn't trying to bash his opinion. I just thought it made interesting discussion.

My comments were not directed at anyone in the Oldhammer Community. I really enjoyed the discussions you had here and thought that you had some very sound theories (which is all they are really) but I thought it best to remain out of things because I would just have been repeating myself. My remarks were directed at various other forums where practically anonymous commentators (ie they write no real copy anywhere) made rather hypocritical cases against my post. Strangely, they have all gone rather quiet since the release of a certain set of financial reports! What is certain is Warhammer is dying a slow death. With Beastmen, Wood Elves, Bretonnians and Tomb Kings almost certain for the chop, the game is going to have a lot less armies.