Marienburg, Undeadish, etc! (plague)

Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)

Loving the progress here. That black dragon turned out perfect. Tabletop is really coming together as well. Keep it up. ;)
 
Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)

Shadespyer, what a champion!

Great work on the zombie dragon. The open eye looking staring straight up looks ace.
 
Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)

billyfish":ybwnh0w8 said:
My first real collection was undead and can't wait to rebuild what was lost many years ago in all my moving and travels.

More on topic, can you share your bone painting colours/tips. I like the shade you've got going on with this lot.
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Thanks everyone.

When I first started in the 80s, I had a little of everything to start with, before trading/selling and focusing on just a couple armies. My undead never made it past the Skeleton Army box of plastics, the NIghtmare Legion, and a handful of assorted lead figures (some of which are or will be making their appearance here, like the "King of Old" wight I posted a few pages back with the Mantic stuff.) So although I had a few figures, this is fun because it's also a bit more of a new project/army for me.


As far as painting bone, I don't have any one formula, and actually use a lot of different combinations . But it generally comes down to a simple base coat of a color anywhere from white, through various creme or linen shades, as dark as some light tan colors, followed by one of the Citdel washes, and finally a small bit of highlighting.

When doing the washes, I use just about anything that's vaguely brown-ish, and will sometimes mix a tiny amount of another color like red, green, purple, etc. in with the still wet wash, right on the figure. It doesn't have to be evenly distributed -- and in fact gives a nice bit of subtle variation if some parts of the skeleton are different than others.

THe less bone that is showing, the less I will indulge in a lot of that variation. So the big GW plastics, which are mostly naked skeletons, get the most. But the figures that only have a small amount of exposed bone get less variety or mixing.
 
Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)

Trying to decide what to do for shields. I think it will either be heaters or coffins. The coffin is just a rough mock-up -- I will make a nicely measured template, possibly just a little bit larger -- and cut the rest to match that.

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Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Undead Dragon)

If it is the Shadespyer that I 'know' virtually, then yes, he is a kind and generous person by virtue of sending you his own copy of the NML! What a legend!

I too am an avid collector of the Undead, having collected all the C17 range and the C21 range which is now sitting in several boxes awaiting paint! I have also been deliberating on what shields to give the NML models, I'm heading in the direction of oval or kite shields though, as they were in life a mercenary unit from Tilea I believe?! So a loose connection to medieval Italian Condottieri will serve as a reference!

Keep the project coming, some wonderful stuff going on here!

Cheers

Gary
 
Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Goblins?!)

Yes, they were a Tilean, or at least Italian flavored (before Tilea appeared in the setting?) so that's why I thought the heater would be a good choice.


And now for something completely different...

I came across these while digging around. They were all painted, but half needed the bases finished. One of those long abandoned projects. There's actually more of these, still unpainted, as well as some of the little guys that came with some of the Foundry great orc mercenaries. I had planned on lumping them all together as "lesser goblins." No idea what I will do with them right now. I just felt like it gave me a sense of accomplishment to finish the bases. :)

Apologies for the poor photo quality.

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Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Goblins?!)

Ooh they're rather lovely!

I loved how in the early days, you had snotlings, lesser goblins, 'goblins', forest goblins, night goblins, great goblins, red goblins, chaos goblins and hobgoblins.

Any other types of goblins I've missed?

:grin:
 
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A Legendary Hero...

...Riding a Noble Steed...

...Wielding an Ancient Hammer...

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Coming soon...

:mrgreen:
 
Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Goblins?!)

In homage to typical post-public GW marketing, I will follow that last post up with a big let-down. ;)

As I continue to work on the big armies of Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (MvU), my mind has recently been wandering into two lines of thought...

One is that I may return to an alternate Warhammer (AltHammer?) setting after all, rather than something entirely new. At least for now. There is still too much of it that I like. However, the "local" setting will be all mine.

The other is that I think I may try delving into some smaller or skirmishy games too. Maybe I will tie these together with my plans for the MvU campaign. Maybe they will just happen in the same setting, but not interact. Who knows. At any rate, I'm looking at what I can put on the table right now -- or with minimal painting or touch-ups. I still have a lot of painting & basing I want to do before MvU, but I'm also itching to play a game soon. Just for fun I'm starting by digging out the stuff I hadn't planned on using in the MvU. Ancient figures. Some painted back in the days of 3rd & 4th ed. WFB. When I pulled out the goblins I previously posted, I also found the half painted model I have now dubbed....

ZOGMAR.

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Working on a name for his hammer. Maybe a wyvern upgrade. ;)

I also based a couple of old wolves...

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And some more troops to support the gobbos...

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I painted over the Goblin Green base edges on these relics from ages past. They may be one of Zogmar's first encounters.

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As with the big game, I'm a little indecisive about what rules to use. The more I see/read about the Oldhammerers around the internets, the more nostalgic I'm getting for 3rd ed. So maybe I will give that a shot. Or maybe even 2nd, which I've never actually played. Or there are a few other games I might be willing to try.
 
Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Goblins?!)

What a great thread.
I don't think I have ever seen a thread from you that hasn't motivated and inspired me.
Really great stuff ... as always.
 
Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Goblins?!)

Thank you! That means a lot. Although I do more lurking than commenting outside of my own painting logs, I have enjoyed following your "This Week..." painting thread on Warseer for years. I also like to take comfort in feeling a bit of long distance camaraderie with other, er, "long term" gamers & painters. ;)

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Wow. Delving deeper into the boxes in the attic...

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Thumpers!

Anyone else remember these? I believe they are Tom Meier goblins/orcs re-touched & cast with a new rabbit look. I've got around 40 of them in various states of repair and painting. I had built enough to use with Hordes of the Things and then stopped.

I wonder if I can rebase & find a use for these. :)

There were a few other things in the box/HotT army, like some Fortress Figures "Hareballs." I will get to those later.



UPDATE: Doing a little research, from what I read, they only appeared in this 1995 catalog (link below.) Thumpers are on pages 13 & 14. The orcs they're based on are on page 12.

http://www.dndlead.com/Catalogs/RalPartha1995.pdf
 
Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Zogmar, Thumpers, oh my...

I've made some decisions.


I've decided to go with the heater shields on the Nightmare Legion. I filled & sanded the small holes on the face of them, and glued them to the figures. So here they are -- ready for some primer! I would like to put them on 40x40 bases like everything else in this project. Seems a bit heretical. I'll end having to trim the slotta tabs too.

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Another decision I made was to go back to the Warhammer setting for my (eventual...) narrative campaign. I'm still going to mix it up a bit. I think I will turn the clock back a bit from the early 26th century of the recent official stuff, to somewhere in the neighborhood of the mid 25th century. I may also deny that the Empire was reunited by that point. I will be scribbling out drafts for my own map, and jotting down notes specific to a local campaign plot & local setting. It will probably be in the western Wasteland (Merienburg's hinterland) between the mountains & border with Bretonnia and the city of Marienburg itself. That gives me mountains, plains, swamps, small villages, minor fortifications, trade routes, a mining town, etc.

So I guess this will be closer to Oldhammering it, after all!


Making these decisions will help steer me back on course, after starting to get sidetracked. If you're reading this, chances are you are a painter and/or gamer -- you know how it is, right? I'm still going to work in the other old figures I've dug out, and maybe try to work out some solo skirmish gaming. But I'm going to resist the urge to put painting, modeling, etc. work into those distractions. Even though I will be modifying it, since I will be sticking with an established setting, I will also minimize that distraction as well.
 
Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Nightmare Legion test)

Thank you!



So I primed the Nightmare Legion and.... disaster. The dreaded "fuzzy" primer. It's not too bad but still noticeable even after I took a stiff brush to some of the figures to paint up as a test. I painted up a few, and thought they looked OK. You can't tell too much in the photos, or on the gaming table, but I can see the texture in places when I pick the figures up and look closely. Now that I've been contemplating it for another day or so, I'm considering the dreaded task of stripping the remaining figures and re-priming. Here are the test subjects:

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Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Nightmare Legion test)

Yes... I would like to buy an Age of Zogmar shirt please....
 
Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Nightmare Legion test)

I ended up stripping the remainder of the fuzzy primer (but unpainted) figures, reprimed them, and just glued them on their temporary painting bases.

I also started going through other figures in various stages of stripping & re-painting.

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To the left is the old Citadel jabberwock, which was the "mystery figure" in the jar in a previous photo. I've had a chance to put a little bit of paint on him the last few weeks, but not much progress. Behind that is the Ral Partha jabberwock, which was too big for the jar since it was cast as a single piece. (I will strip that one when I find a larger jar.) Next to that is a Grenadier "dragon-fly" that just had it's paint removed as well. And on the right is a figure that I think was from either Leviathan or Celtos or Chronopia or one of the other games around that time. He will be remain painted, but I included him in the pic because I dug out a second figure that has the same mount, but different rider. I will be leaving the rider off and using that one as just as a beast.

I'm not sure how soon these will be painted. Now that the Nightmare Legion is ready for paint again, I will be back at those.
 
Re: Marienburg vs. the Undeadish (Nightmare Legion test)

Rather than rebase the Marienburgers that are already painted, I've decided to just make some simple trays for them. Here are the first two prototypes, loaded full of sword & buckler men.

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Thanks! Although I know what you mean, I still find it funny to refer to the plastic figures as new. :grin: I wish they were still in production (or easier to get.) They are easy to work with, look good, and are great for bulking up big armies. I still have a small stash of them, but could use quite a few more!



Speaking of new figures, I'm going to include this one here because I am copying & pasting my update across several fora, and figured I would just leave this in...


Time has been tight lately, so the things I've been working on are those which I can spend 5-10 minutes on, then step away for a few hours or days, then come back and work on for another 5-10 minutes.


I finally finished a commission that I've been slowly working on for a few months.

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I also started on some terrain a week or two ago. Finally finished today, with the addition of the grass flock. Inspired to get back to the Marienburg/Wasteland theme a bit.

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I would really like to do some larger terrain, but can't manage to get the hour or so I need during daylight to go outside and make a mess with a saw, file, and sander outside to make the hardboard bases. Plans include larger marsh/swamps, river & road sections, and a tumulus.


And lastly, more progress on making a few new movement trays at a time.

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I am starting to regret not putting a metal or magnet-receptive material on the trays as I did with the older WFB sized trays. The standard bearers like to tip over a bit too much.
 
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