Making a Venator Head for an Asslessman

[theottovonbismark]

Cool stuff!

Cheers dude!

I need to fix the things on the master I am not happy with but I am happy with the general vibe/mood of the sculpt. I was quite pleased to see that it reminded me of the Blanche illustration (with a bit of white/grey paint on the mask).

It appears that "Occupy Hive Primus" movement is a little more militant than its 21st century roots
The white mask is a little too "V for Vendetta" for my tastes. I always imagined the Venators to have a leather coloured mask for some reason. The sculpt looks the part for sure though.

hehehe I am sure that the 0.0000001% is about to virus bomb the place if they get all uppity and disrespectful of the Master of Mankind.

I went with white as it looks white in the illustration, but seeing as they are based on Venetian masks they could be any colour really. I would like to get some thin half masks made that can be applied to any model face with a bit of filing and bending. I see the current project as a full helmet with intergrated auto-senses and respirator which might be used by a senior venator. Junior Venators should look like the other guys in the Blanche illustration. Dont forget we need some sexy Venatrix (Venatrices?) and some practically attired ones too .

Clear acrylic heels. That'll learn those villainous scumbags.

Good idea, that's doable in theory if I cast in clear resin.

Didnt the Venators continue the BDSM look with nooses around their necks too? It never struck me as the most sensible thing to wear when going into hand to hand, like Hooded Justice in Watchmen. The risk with the mask, noose, thigh high boots, codpieces and other paraphenalia is that the Venators might look a bit too much like Mordheim figures rather than sci-fi guys. I know that the line between 40K and Fantasy is a very fine one that GW doesnt mind crossing regularly, but I like those sorts of characters to have a few distinctly sci-fi trappings.

Great work. Im looking forward to seeing a few of these guys assembled and painted.

I think it was the House Cawdor models who foolishly went into battle pre-noosed. Between the Redemptionists, the Cawdor and the few Venator models I have seen the whole thing gets a little confused. You are right about the sci-fi trappings to stop them looking like Vesperos Vendetta with lasguns! Rich guys in 40K should have things like micro sized Jokero tech like needle pistol rings, communicators in their buttons etc. and successful bounty hunters should be rich guys.

I see the Venatori as a bounty hunting expedition with a rich and famous Venator/Venartix holding imperial warrant granting them the license to capture or kill certain individuals or gang members within hive society. Obviously underhive scum are exempt from needing an imperial warrant to exterminate. I imaging a well equipped leader and core henchmen/henchwomen supported by all manner of hired guns from deadly combat specialist to the frothing redemptors and so on...

Not sucking up but this one of the enjoyable threads on here atm, always found the idea of lead casting scary as feck. Also if you decide to sell these heads at a later date I'd love a set of 10 for Brood Brother use.

Sell??? I prefer reciprocity . I am sure there will be lots of good bits and bobs available from this project in due course which end up on your lead pile.

It's interesting to get peoples take on the Venator theme. More ideas the better!

 

[Asslessman]

Adam Ant or some sort of New Romantic is how I have always imagined Brats. Not that there is a right or wrong way to do these things obviously, but thats how I see them.

Oh sure thing, noting carved in stone here and nobody's wrong. I really like the ideas you bring. My personnal culture (or lack thereof) tends to make me see bratts as a bunch of glamrock spoiled brats (uhuhu) but I like your more aristocratic view (which looks a bit more like how I picture Helmawr gangers )

Not sucking up but this one of the enjoyable threads on here atm

I have to agree with you and not beacuse I'm implied in it but because I really find a 4 hands (or is it more?) project is a great thing ! Ideas coming from everywhere and things moving on rapidly, what's not to like?

It best to avoid dissecting 41st millenium wardrobe decisions. Many of them are... questionable to say the least

Oh sure, I have far enough of silly haircuts with long hair on one side and shaved on the other or punk crests amongst my RT adventurers...

Cyborg parts are the go-to way to make sure that the viewer knows that something is sci-fi despite the Elizabethan ruff or whatever. I am looking forward to seeing a painted group of Venators soon.

I agree, I even think it's the reason why JB chose to draw a real gun (a UZI if I'm right) to make it look realistic and take the character back from a more fictionnal/fantasy vibe.
I want that dichotomy in my venators.

 

[Chico]

Cyborg/Robots make eveything better:

 

[theottovonbismark]

Cyborg/Robots make eveything better:

What is it with you and those goats?

 

[Chico]

Longish running joke started on this forum by Zhu, now it's a goal in life to mention Goats in a somewhat relevant way in threads.

 

[Asslessman]

Okaaaaaaay, back on tracks with a failed attempt at casting these poor heads :

the first line being the first batch and the second line a second attempt. The 4 right heads on line 2 should be good enough though to try a transplantation on some plastic heads...

My resin is dead, it cures a strange way (making weird textures instead of the fine and smooth shiny finish it usually does) and it must have caught a cold in my garage... Maybe getting some new resin and storing somewhere else is the way to go. I'll keep these tests aside and see what I do with them once I have Otto's, they'll most probably end up on servitors or slaves because I don't like to waste pieces .

 

[theottovonbismark]

Don't throw it out as you might be able to use if for some scenery making, perhaps with some wet sand and a football as suggested in the RT rulebook.

What type of resin is that you are using? Seems to take ages to dry.


I want to try this quicker drying stuff in the new year as it claims to be less bubble prone:

http://www.smooth-on.com/Urethane-Plastic-a/c5_1120_1209/index.html

See example of use at:

http://www.stormthecastle.com/miniatures/cast-miniatures-in-a-two-part-mold-part-1.htm

 

[Asslessman]

Oh no, the one I use sets in few minutes with complete curing in about 1/2 an hour. I'm not throwing it away as it ay serve some othr purpose. I was considering buying some cristal one anyway becasue I have another little project in mind...

 

[theottovonbismark]

Just saw these on the Wargamesfoundry site front page. They could have some Confrontation potential:

 

[Asslessman]

They seem to scale a bit too small from what I see but as there is nothing to compare them to this might need a pinch of salt. The hats are not to my taste but the jackets definitely are and would make a very good basis for aristocrats from the upper hive.

 

[cheetor]

They seem to scale a bit too small from what I see but as there is nothing to compare them to this might need a pinch of salt.

I got a set of those the weekend before last when I visited Foundry I think that they are quite fun looking. Marcus told me that they were sculpted by Foundrys caster (I dont remember the guys name) EDIT: Ronnie Shilton. I plan to paint them as some sort of Inquisitorial retinue guardsmen types.

What do you want to see the figures alongside? Necromunda stuff? I will take a quick photo this evening if you like.

 

[Asslessman]

What do you want to see the figures alongside? Necromunda stuff? I will take a quick photo this evening if you like.

Oh, shots alongside rogue trader era models and more recent ones would be great ! thanks.

 

[cheetor]

Oh, shots alongside rogue trader era models and more recent ones would be great ! thanks.

I am going away for the weekend tomorrow and have a few things to do tonight as a result, but I should be able to take a couple of photos this evening all the same.

 

[Asslessman]

That's nice, don't rush and get caught "playing with little men" juts before leaving by your other half for me, it can easilly wait for when you get back !

 

[cheetor]

Some photos of the Foundry New Romantic Hussars alongside some RT stuff as requested.

 

[Asslessman]

Which means they scale just right with RT models (maybe not as bulky). By the way, I've been looking for the fish men in their ranges but couldn't find them. Are they still available or was it from anither manufactorer you got them?

Anyway thanks for taking the time to post these.

 

[Chico]

The Fishmen were a limited event release for the RT event a year or 2 back I want a set myself

 

[cheetor]

Which means they scale just right with RT models (maybe not as bulky).

Well within parameters as as far as I am concerned

The Fishmen were a limited event release for the RT event a year or 2 back I want a set myself

November/December 2012 IIRC. A fun little bit of RT precursor history for sure. I very much hope that Foundry has many more similar items waiting to be rediscovered.

 

[Asslessman]

OK I tried to make some heads on my own but I think I have to get out of the confort zone to improve. Obvisously, I overdid it by trying to do too much at once but I've learnt from this mistake even though Otoo had clearly pointed that this could lead to failure
pics are horrible because the camera won't focus but you're not losing much. I'm trying to correct things abit tonight but here is what it's like for now...
The bases are 2 bretonnian peassants and a wood elf. (one of them is not on the pics and it's the better looking one of course...)

 

[theottovonbismark]

Seems like a good approach though. Pity the focus is bad on the 2nd one. The hood looks good on the 2nd one, was the hood on a wood elf model to begin with?

I have to get back to work on this project this week - Christmas has been a bit of a disruption for little work done on any figures, and now I have even more figures on the mountain due to gifts - not a bad complaint really!