2nd or 3rd

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Hi All,

I was thinking of picking up a copy of either the 2nd or 3rd edition rules, as I've never actually played WFB and thought it would be fun to put together a few units and run them around a table - having been inspired by a lot of the stuff you guys are doing. I have a copy of the 4th Ed rules, but I was thinking about something more 80's - I'm not really into anything modern which is why I'm here I guess.

I'd also just like them to have a read through and understand the world, characters and 'vibe' a bit more.

Better to start with 2nd or 3rd do you think?
 
Tough call. They are both Oldhammer to me. I started collecting miniatures when 2nd was the current ruleset, but only started playing when 3rd came out. I would be hard pushed to pick from either were I stating afresh. Maybe 3rd as it has a prettier book?

Citizen Sade has a fair point, if you are looking to find someone to play with, 3rd is more likely better?
 
There was a time (say, three or so years ago) you could pick up the individual 2e books (combat, battle magic and the bestiary) for under a tenner each. No one wanted it, so charity shop bargains abound. Now, like the ravening hordes book, they has sky rocketed. The complete sets (3x books plus box, badge, advert etc) are rare as often split. Some have had the sven scenario ripped out. Everything split to sell on ebay. Crazy.
 
Fighelm said:
There was a time (say, three or so years ago) you could pick up the individual 2e books (combat, battle magic and the bestiary) for under a tenner each. No one wanted it, so charity shop bargains abound. Now, like the ravening hordes book, they has sky rocketed. The complete sets (3x books plus box, badge, advert etc) are rare as often split. Some have had the sven scenario ripped out. Everything split to sell on ebay. Crazy.
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I've seen that - it's crazy!
 
In terms of getting hold of a copy (or at least pdf) 3rd is much easier. It's also all in one book so the best toolkit volume out there bar the 6th ed rulebook (which ain't Oldhammer, but is a damn fine solid set of rules). Arguably 2nd edition is actually preferable to me for a few reasons-
1) It doesn't have a lot of the complexities of 3rd (manoeuvring and magic is way easier)
2) It emphasises scenarios/narrative/rpg elements a lot more
3) If you aren't wedded to the Warhammer world the bestiary lets you be more creative with your figure choice
 
Michael Stockin said:
Tough call. They are both Oldhammer to me. I started collecting miniatures when 2nd was the current ruleset, but only started playing when 3rd came out. I would be hard pushed to pick from either were I stating afresh. Maybe 3rd as it has a prettier book?

Citizen Sade has a fair point, if you are looking to find someone to play with, 3rd is more likely better?
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Thanks for the advice - to be honest I'd be happy just to push some mini's around the table by myself!
 
Fighelm said:
Just an add, forgot the 1988 seige book 1e as well but that was crossed purposed with RT and probably more WHFB 3e. I mean the prices are up, up & away, for example... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/358695935314

In the end both had lots of articles, additional army lists in adverts and scenarios in WD.
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Well funny you should say that - but I have just picked up a copy of the RT reprint and 1988 Warhammer Siege. :grin:
 
Fighelm said:
There was a time (say, three or so years ago) you could pick up the individual 2e books (combat, battle magic and the bestiary) for under a tenner each. No one wanted it, so charity shop bargains abound. Now, like the ravening hordes book, they has sky rocketed. The complete sets (3x books plus box, badge, advert etc) are rare as often split. Some have had the sven scenario ripped out. Everything split to sell on ebay. Crazy.
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O/T This separating things in order to increase the potential value absolutely does my head in, especially with miniature kits. You can't really do anything with the individual bits so its just greedy.

I have 3rd edition in a dilapidated state but my favourite scenario is 2nd Edition. I also like the 2nd Edition ethos, it seems much more freeform than later versions as alluded to by @Fimm McCool

Doesn't 4th ed need a separate magic book as well? The earlier versions are basically all there in one book. I think the rules are basically very similar, albeit simplified in the stat line for later editions.
 
Fimm McCool said:
In terms of getting hold of a copy (or at least pdf) 3rd is much easier. It's also all in one book so the best toolkit volume out there bar the 6th ed rulebook (which ain't Oldhammer, but is a damn fine solid set of rules). Arguably 2nd edition is actually preferable to me for a few reasons-
1) It doesn't have a lot of the complexities of 3rd (manoeuvring and magic is way easier)
2) It emphasises scenarios/narrative/rpg elements a lot more
3) If you aren't wedded to the Warhammer world the bestiary lets you be more creative with your figure choice
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Ah see, now that all sounds appealing!
 
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