Waxing Lyrical or Moaning Old Git?

MichaelStockin

MichaelStockin

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I am struggling to work out why people are excited for TOW when they already have existing WFB rules and armies.

I know some people that are starting TOW and are not using their old models from WFB.
They are not even starting TOW to be able to play in GW shops as they are using printed non-official models.
Why are they not using their old models with the new rules, or their old models with their old rules.
The people I know, play at each others homes, with printed models.
Why not just play with what they have, if the excitement of TOW means they want to get back into WFB with a new army rather than with their old ones, why not use the rules they have and know and just get a new army, why get new rules too, especially when they won’t be playing with people outside their friend circle.

If it makes them happy then great, but I genuinely don’t get it, is it just succumbing to the hype?



I also see loads of comments online about how people can use their WFB armies again at last…
They always could!

I sometimes feel like I am outside the bigger social circle of the wargames hobby, playing non in vogue rules, I have never been into the current big brand boxed games.
Never did AoS.
Never did Flames of War or Bolt Action, never did anything which was served up in bite size boxes with all the rules printed and done for you.
There has always been choices to make, things to fill out, other ways of playing it.
It means there is more thinking and work, but I think I prefer that.

I was talking to my wife the other day about the oldhammer community, and how the people that play it are doing it as they love it, it is not current, it is not cheap, it is not in vogue or easy to find people that have compatible models/rules to play with.
Some of the oldhammer folks have always been oldhammer, I stopped around the time of 4th edition WFB and came back into WFB about 4 years ago, many never left.
That is dedication and love for something right there, people that have been playing the same thing for 30 years or more.

Is it about knowing what you like and sticking with it and not being sucked away with new shiny products?
I suspect that many people who are getting into TOW now will not be playing it in 5 years’ time, let alone 25 years.

That is what I love about oldhammeryness, the love is real.

Anyway, that is my morning rant/waffle/out spilling over, time for another coffee and get on watch duty, the rumblings of chaos is always about.
 
Old world just seams a bit of a 'oh, we fucked up with the whole 'lets scrap WFB for skirmish game (not that I have any problem with skirmish games)' an just do a cheap reissue. Mostly 6ed, but currently greatly limiting forces.. Only pro I see is reissue of some old models.

You do get alot of people who are only into new stuff.. the idiots that have to have the latest Games console and the latest mobile phone etc.. (the last games console I brought was a second and broken Game Gear so I could do it up with some modern mods.. ended up with a new screen, new battery (rechargeable), new case, new sound card, making a game gear which is what it should have been).. People like to try to say it's a phycological disorder when it's mostly just stupid people (sorry, it's like how I have a dislike of people who claim a phobia when they just have a fear or dislike.. bit of a peeve to me).

Also, never really had a bit social circle.. I'm far from a social person really.. which is annoying as gaming is a social activity.. For various reasons, and partly with age I guess, I prefer to have the love of something and really enjoy it then doing something because it's the best of two evils. Don't see the point in wasting time on something which .. well, just isn't worth investing the time into.. which I've kinda had for some time and probably one of the (many) reasons I don't have a huge social circle ^_^;
 
It's likely easier to find people to play ToW with than older editions of WHFB. I think playing those older editions in GW stores has not even been allowed since The End Times? If that is true, it's not hard to see why community got splintered into smaller groups playing with different rules.
ToW is definitely GW trying to fix what they broke and get old customers spending on their products again.

As to why people buy new minis and not use their old armies, I think some just want to start from a clean slate, maybe with completely new army or one they already have but go with different approach and colour scheme etc.
Why people who play with their mates, using non-official minis and games taking place at their own home are into ToW? No idea.
Maybe learning the new game system has some appeal to it? Or perhaps they think ToW is the best version of the rank and file games there is?

I'm far from the best person to answer this, though, since I don't even play.

ManicMan said:
it's like how I have a dislike of people who claim a phobia when they just have a fear or dislike..
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I suppose you mean people exaggerating things, since fear actually is defining factor of what phobia is.
 
pretty much.. I know Phobia the word is from the word for Fear, but in Medical terms, it is an Excessive or/and irrational fear. Not liking spiders, for example, is different from having to keep cleaning every section of your house for a fear that there might be (and most likely is) a spider there etc.. It's a form of anxiety disorder. The most common and kinda the easiest to treat I believe.
 
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