The Ansell's Attic.

Just reread it (damn my eyes) Actually 20x30cm (nearly 8"x12"slightly larger- still a small art board. But the bloody detail on it. ♥️
 
Eric said:
Given the art is a touch out of my limits I thought I might take a punt on the catalogue. I'm sure I'd heard good things in the past so will let you know and post a few pics when it arrives.

Damn some nice pieces on there, I suppose I don't really need both kidneys ...
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Somebody already parted with £50K for Blanche's Great Imperial doors. Pin money to some, probably on its way to a Swiss bank vault now... :(
 
Don't forget the extra £2,000 artist resale rights and then insurance and shipping. You'd be amazed how few shipping companies actually cover artwork in their insurance, I idly looked at our FedEx account (they seem to be one company that will let you just buy insurance for a given amount) and our account at least caps out at £38k for goods insured value. Anyhow shipping those doors insured to that limit and with some best guesses for package size would cost in the ballpark of £300. Then again what's ~£2300 when you've just splashed £50k! To be honest if I were the buyer and in the same country I might go and pick it up myself to be sure.
 
Eric said:
To be honest if I were the buyer and in the same country I might go and pick it up myself to be sure.
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OK :D Then bubble wrapped, seat belted in front passenger and being driven to it's new home... In a Swiss bank vault 🇨🇭 🏦
 
Fimm McCool said:
These pieces deserve to be on a gaming room wall or in some public gallery for gaming history.
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Double double thumbs up. :D But in all probability, we can take our pick from a whole load of crazy suggestions to their final resting place, ie: - a hedgefund buy/ venture capitalist 'investment' (read: tax write-off); or techbro cashing in tesla shares; or bitcoin merchant swapping for legit physical property; or Asian shadow bank/ party cadre offshore laundering; oligarch (pick any ex soviet country) showpiece of `degenerate` western art; or some weird neoliberal capitalist cultist alter hanging for worshipping the beginnings of the (real life) imperium...
 
... On a more serious note, sure legit buyers will be buying under usual checks and balances - Diane Ansell notes the terms and conditions as are right and lawful. But sometimes it can make you think, well, stuff just gets sold off all the time - private sale - and not necessarily to the 'right' investor in terms for a greater good of the public and future viewing. Even the great auction houses. I know 'national treasure laws' can be enacted for art and antiquities, but I guess this 'art' isn't at that level? It's commercial? When does it? Stuff must disappear into anonymous private collections all the time (here's looking at you 'Crosby Garret helmet')...
 
Oh, yeah.. it gets very messy with things like this and national treasures etc.

There was a famous art fraud called 'Roy Lichenstein'. He did what is called 'swiping' where you steal the work of others, poorly trace it and pass it off as your own. His excuse 'well, comic book drawings isn't art. I MADE it into Art!'.. One of the biggest modern day frauds he is... and one of the few who I would be bothered to attend a protest rally for as some people still think he is some 'nice guy' and 'great artist'... But they would stick his stuff in a museum and call it a national treasure.. (by the way, There was a GREAT comic by the Viz about the
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from an old issue.. well worth seeing if you can.
 
ManicMan said:
Oh, yeah.. it gets very messy with things like this and national treasures etc.

There was a famous art fraud called 'Roy Lichenstein'. He did what is called 'swiping' where you steal the work of others, poorly trace it and pass it off as your own. His excuse 'well, comic book drawings isn't art. I MADE it into Art!'.. One of the biggest modern day frauds he is... and one of the few who I would be bothered to attend a protest rally for as some people still think he is some 'nice guy' and 'great artist'... But they would stick his stuff in a museum and call it a national treasure.. (by the way, There was a GREAT comic by the Viz about the
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from an old issue.. well worth seeing if you can.
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Lichenstein was a cartoonist first, which to my mind makes his swiping even more egregious. Bill Mauldin, the great soldier-cartoonist known for "
Up Front" with Willie and Joe from "Stars and Stripes" et al, was classmates with Lichtenstein just before WW2.
 
ManicMan said:
One of the biggest modern day frauds he is...
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Well, I wouldn't go as far as calling Lichenstein a 'fraud'. Art is many things, and an expression of imagination is one of them. And appropriation. Well was someone like Kurt Schwitters doing collages Kunstwerk, or Banksy doing skits of old masters Crude oils?! are they frauds...? So, copy Comic book 'low art' into Pop Art, or whatever, real fraud is forgery (& potential for money laundering): Henty the forger still getting away with it...
 
'Banksy' is a fraud. stealing the works of others and poorly tracing them claiming that has turn them into art is fraud. I could go on and give alot of detailed information but... that's de-railing FAR too much, even for me ^_^. But ask any artist or creator worth their weight (or even less) about it.

If you 3D scan a miniature, reduce the quality (of course) and print it, then claim that isn't being a fraud claiming you created it?
 
ManicMan said:
But ask any artist or creator
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Well, I can ask myself? Am both! And what about? Banksy is an Artist, certainly not a fraud. Doesn't matter what people think. He's doing art. He's tapped into the one thing in the human pysche that resonates - reward centres and emotions. Doesn't matter if people like it or not - it's emotive, yes - whether you think it's shit/wrong whatever, but it's Art, and people are buying it and into it: Getting away with it! Besides, beyond the graffiti Banksy is a good draughtsman, Artist, whatever you can call him. Like Damien Hirst, a great artist, a fantastically talented painter, but oh!!! A chainsawed 1/2 cow in formaldehyde! 😂 The very fact people formulate opinion, devisive or not, is (part of) Art. Knock offs /forgeries are still 'art', just done for different reasons - cold hard cash...fraudulent, fakery not imitating or sardonic.
 
Fighelm said:
Well, I can ask myself? Am both! And what about? Banksy is an Artist, certainly not a fraud. Doesn't matter what people think. He's doing art. He's tapped into the one thing in the human pysche that resonates - reward centres and emotions. Doesn't matter if people like it or not - it's emotive, yes - whether you think it's shit/wrong whatever, but it's Art, and people are buying it and into it: Getting away with it! Besides, beyond the graffiti Banksy is a good draughtsman, Artist, whatever you can call him. Like Damien Hirst, a great artist, a fantastically talented painter, but oh!!! A chainsawed 1/2 cow in formaldehyde! 😂 The very fact people formulate opinion, devisive or not, is (part of) Art. Knock offs /forgeries are still 'art', just done for different reasons - cold hard cash...fraudulent, fakery not imitating or sardonic.
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I used to live in Bristol and was surrounded by various works by Banksy which I came to know and love very well.

I especially liked his film Exit Through The Gift Shop (currently on Youtube) which is nothing like you'd expect it to be and also a bit of an eye opener (especially regarding The House of Mouse).
 
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