Recast?

[Scramasax_83]

Hi everyone
I don’t know if it is the good place to post this question?
I have bought some rt eldars, and I have a doubt about four of them, which come from the same french seller:
They look shiny, here’s a photo of one compared with a sure original on the right

 

[Golgfag1]

Any chance of a better picture, the detail isn't that clear, so can't really tell in the usualt signs are there or not - double casting lines, slight mis-castings lost detail.

Sorry not really any help.

Paul / Golgfag1

 

[dieselmonkey]

Shiny castings can actually just be a result of the metal not being the right temperature when it went in the mould, not necessarily proof that it's a recast.

As Paul says, better photos would allow us to give a more informed opinion.

 

[Citizen Sade]

Remember also that GW was offering its bits/bitz service, at least in the U.K., until well into the white metal era. I picked up loads of complete, shiny, white metal casts of figures from the 80s using it.

 

[Citizen Sade]

For example:

 

[Scramasax_83]

More pics of suspects

 

[Scramasax_83]

Another one

 

[dieselmonkey]

I'm going to verge towards a no to them being a recast. They were, let's be honest, pretty average casts from new, that non-helmeted guy in particular. I've just had a look at one of mine and the detail level and mould lines look pretty much identical. As mentioned, if they were cast from the Bitz service in non-lead white metal, they would have been done using ropey old moulds anyway.

There's also the fact that they're not particularly desirable models, until this year you could get most of the original Eldar for around £2 each, that wouldn't really make recasting worthwhile.

 

[Scramasax_83]

I'm going to verge towards a no to them being a recast. They were, let's be honest, pretty average casts from new, that non-helmeted guy in particular. I've just had a look at one of mine and the detail level and mould lines look pretty much identical. As mentioned, if they were cast from the Bitz service in non-lead white metal, they would have been done using ropey old moulds anyway.

There's also the fact that they're not particularly desirable models, until this year you could get most of the original Eldar for around £2 each, that wouldn't really make recasting worthwhile.

Ok, but just have a look at this one, not mine, and compare particularly the cable of the s.pistol. Strange , isn’t it?

 

[symphonicpoet]

^I'd also add that they look to have paint remnants in a few deep pockets. If they were painted and stripped they can come out looking pretty polished. (Particularly when they've been stripped that well.)

 

[AranaszarSzuur]

Remember also that GW was offering its bits/bitz service, at least in the U.K., until well into the white metal era. I picked up loads of complete, shiny, white metal casts of figures from the 80s using it.

Damn, imagine what things would be like if the Oldhammer movement started in 2005 instead of 2012.

 

[dieselmonkey]

Damn, imagine what things would be like if the Oldhammer movement started in 2005 instead of 2012.

It did. Well, 2001, to be precise.

 

[annagul]

I think it is not a recast, too.

 

[AranaszarSzuur]

Damn, imagine what things would be like if the Oldhammer movement started in 2005 instead of 2012.

It did. Well, 2001, to be precise.

I mean on larger scale. Large enough to buy tons of Oldhammer miniatures from the Mail Order Trolls XD .

When it comes to single websites, I think it's even earlier than that. The old Confrontation site goes back at least to 2000, Rogue Trader cult back to at least 1998, Unofficial Wh40k Rogue Trader online project to 1998 too.

 

[dieselmonkey]

When it comes to single websites, I think it's even earlier than that. The old Confrontation site goes back at least to 2000, Rogue Trader cult back to at least 1998, Unofficial Wh40k Rogue Trader online project to 1998 too.

On a personal note, after leaving GW to go to uni in 1991, I got back into wargaming in 1998 with Necromunda and then Mordheim. I tried 3rd ed 40k and 5th Ed WFB at the time and didn't like them, so went back to RT and 3rd Ed. Ebay in the UK wasn't a thing yet, so i got an account in the USA to could pick up old models for cheap. It was about 2001 that I started blogging it (I think on a Livejournal!) with a small network of other old-school fans, and then a bit later doing game reports with Gadge and a few others, and I've carried on ever since.