I've Never felt as old as I do right now....

Andy H":3cdy0fe5 said:
What I mean is, its very rarely used as an official title of a product.
Yes, and for a lot of people it's not very clear either which edition is which. I met a lot of people who believed that 4th was the first edition...
 
Galadrin":g5e0qeo0 said:
Urhammer (1e), Oldhammer (2e and 3e), Herohammer (4e and 5e) and Newhammer (all the rest)!

The titles I'm adopting for my Encyclopaedia Warhammica project:

1st- Forehammer
2nd- Plothammer
3rd- Oldhammer
4th- Redhammer
5th- Herohammer
6th- Corehammer
7th/8th- Hordehammer

I know labelling 3rd as Oldhammer will cause some consternation, but that's just how I see it. ;)
 
Fimm McCool":2v96odnz said:
The titles I'm adopting for my Encyclopaedia Warhammica project:
[...]
7th/8th- Hordehammer
I would not call 7th hordehammer, hordes are really specific to 8th. 7th, was more, in my opinion, a revised 6th edition more oriented toward competitive/balanced play.

Fimm McCool":2v96odnz said:
I know labelling 3rd as Oldhammer will cause some consternation, but that's just how I see it. ;)
Yes, for me (and some others I know) Oldhammer is more second than 3rd, but Plothammer is a cool name for 2nd so I won't enter the debates this time ;)

Bruno
 
I fit no category then, 'cos I use whatever works, and have since 1st ed. Currently = 8th for battles (modified), with 6th ed siege rules (modified), old web-campaign army lists (modified) and WFRP aspects, and modified Mighty Empires campaign rules. In the spirit I have played since 1st edition, and using figures from the 1980s onwards, GW plus umpteen other manufacturers.

I'm EverythingHammer. :grin:
 
Fimm McCool":1tlepw7s said:
Galadrin":1tlepw7s said:
Urhammer (1e), Oldhammer (2e and 3e), Herohammer (4e and 5e) and Newhammer (all the rest)!

The titles I'm adopting for my Encyclopaedia Warhammica project:

1st- Forehammer
2nd- Plothammer
3rd- Oldhammer
4th- Redhammer
5th- Herohammer
6th- Corehammer
7th/8th- Hordehammer

I know labelling 3rd as Oldhammer will cause some consternation, but that's just how I see it. ;)

Of course you can call your books whatever you like! But, in my opinion...

The corehammer people aren't really stuck in 6th. Fore-hammer kind of suggests something before Warhammer - so maybe Reaper and Laserburn or some house rules or unpublished notes from RRB (you know, that free mailorder ruleset that was originally intended by Rick)? Originalhammer, Firsthammer? Herohammer seems to be used quite widely to describe an army-list building style that has more emphasis on the Hero with lots of magic items (a Herohammer build is possible in any edition although of course encouraged more by some than others) rather than a specific edition. 2nd Ed certainly did have a lot of scenario led stuff, so Plothammer is quite nice for that, athough aesthetically the accidental formation of the "th" digraph is a bit awkward.
 
treps":kenbzics said:
Fimm McCool":kenbzics said:
The titles I'm adopting for my Encyclopaedia Warhammica project:
[...]
7th/8th- Hordehammer
I would not call 7th hordehammer, hordes are really specific to 8th. 7th, was more, in my opinion, a revised 6th edition more oriented toward competitive/balanced play.

Fimm McCool":kenbzics said:
I know labelling 3rd as Oldhammer will cause some consternation, but that's just how I see it. ;)
Yes, for me (and some others I know) Oldhammer is more second than 3rd, but Plothammer is a cool name for 2nd so I won't enter the debates this time ;)

Bruno

'Plothammer' because 2nd edition had those great narrative campaigns- McDeath, Orcs' Drift, Lichemaster etc...
As to 7th, I agree, but my 7th and 8th rulebooks are being bound together so I'm opting for Hordehammer for that collected volume. :)

Zhu Bajie":kenbzics said:
Of course you can call your books whatever you like! But, in my opinion...

The corehammer people aren't really stuck in 6th. Fore-hammer kind of suggests something before Warhammer - so maybe Reaper and Laserburn or some house rules or unpublished notes from RRB (you know, that free mailorder ruleset that was originally intended by Rick)? Originalhammer, Firsthammer? Herohammer seems to be used quite widely to describe an army-list building style that has more emphasis on the Hero with lots of magic items (a Herohammer build is possible in any edition although of course encouraged more by some than others) rather than a specific edition. 2nd Ed certainly did have a lot of scenario led stuff, so Plothammer is quite nice for that, athough aesthetically the accidental formation of the "th" digraph is a bit awkward.

Forehammer just has a nice sound to it- kind of like 'forerunner', rather than 'pre-hammer'. Herohammer is fairly widely used to talk of 5th specifically although of course you can play herohammer with any era, as you can play narrative-driven skirmishes and warband stuff with any era. Plothammer is, yes, a little awkward, but I couldn't find anything that had the same meaning and a nicer sound- suggestions welcome. And the intention behind Corehammer was a) good wordplay, b) 6th edition was, by the designers' admission, an attempt to rebalance against the powerful hero/magic combos that had been prevalent in 5th- hence a focus on 'core' parts of the armies, c) 6th edition contained rules for armies, skirmishing, scenarios, magic and sieges within the rulebook itself and so presented a 'core' system whereas previous editions had added those bits on in subsequent expansions. It isn't a reference to the Corehammer group, which I was unaware existed. :)
 
For me it's all a bit of nostalgia.

If whatever edition I'm playing makes me feel as excited as I did back in the day when I was playing it the first time around then it's Oldhammer.

I think that's why I LOVE the 3rd edition army book. The pictures in that book are what really drew me in, nothing to do with rules, how things played, the complications/simplification of rules sets. None of that mattered, as a youngling, flicking through Erny's copy of Warhammer Armies the illustrations came to life in my mind, I imagined little animated cartoons of them, and then to see the mini's too? Well that was just too exciting.

So, for me, Oldhammer = Nostalgiahammer.
 
8 edition oldhammer??. People are forgetting Warhammer as it was ... AoS has destroy all we care for. I hope GW burn in hell for this :grin:
 
This is what I looked like IN THE 1990s:

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Hipsterhammer. Hustlerhamster.

Having your late teenage look become retro/hip/ridiculous makes one feel somewhat aged.
 
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