Inquisitorial Retinue

Eric

Administrator
I get what you mean about the scale. Looks good however. I suspect that with some serious weathering and some greebles on the walls (pipes, vents, etc) that might break it up a bit and tone down the extreme marble! I suppose you could keep the extreme marble theme and do the alter and central pathway in black marble, might contrast nicely.
 

JonAtron

Member
Expectation Vs reality was mismatched here. It didn't turn out how I envisaged and I don't have the skills or ability to craft quite the look I was after. It doesn't look good. Its far too busy for the eye and large of scale and this will take away from the army when in place. Quite the opposite of what a good board is supposed to do. After some hard thought... It needs muting down, but in a way that gives an ability to weather it some for visual interest.I cant do much with clean marble. Back to the drawing board.

The idea for this MDF square was to be an imperial shrine, a place of worship. So it needs a sense of value in the materials it would have been "built" with. Now I've tried that with the marble but I cant get it right, I need to keep the floor as marble because that's what the army is based to match, so I'm going to have to hand paint it to a smaller scale to match the bases. But as with all things imperial, it would probably be a mix of standard prefabricated structures ornated with more exotic materials or iconography. So marble floor keep. Change the walls to concrete and plasteel. I can mute the pallet down, make it far less busy and weather it nicely to give interest... So, with trepidation, lets have another go at this.





Yeh, who knows how this is going to end up. Might be an expensive mess :grin:
 

ManicMan

Member
still looking good ^_^
and you need to try something to see if you can do it and expand your skill set. I'm doing some miniatures right now where i'm trying to be a bit more fancy in some bits then I'm sure i can be.. some of it is coming out well, some isn't quite as much.. but either way, I'm learning.

you need to take chances, make mistakes and get messy!
 

twisted moon

Moderator
JonAtron":3psg8u27 said:
Expectation Vs reality was mismatched here. It didn't turn out how I envisaged ... Yeh, who knows how this is going to end up. Might be an expensive mess.

i think you'd have got away with it, but good luck with the new approach.
 

JonAtron

Member
Thank you guys as always for the encouragement, but it just don't look right still. So, for a fourth time now, I've tried again. A few learning points I've found. The stretched out wet wipe mask does not work well with rattle cans. The reason being I think is that the paint globules are too large and need to be sprayed from to far back to penetrate the smaller gaps in the web of the wet wipe, and so do not give the thin lines/web in the marble. If you get the can too close to penetrate the material it delivers far too much paint and blobs. When I tried to free hand it with the airbrush on the second time, I made all the swirls of colour angled to draw the eye to the centre of the board, they work diagonally in. That's not how marble looks, and it caught the eye more as some sort of animal print than marble. On my third try, free hand with a paint brush, wet wipe mask over it, it just looked like a mess as I simply laid the wet wipe down, minimal tension so it.

On this last try, I thought about each panel being individual rather than trying to paint all the floor as a whole. I masked the panel, stretched and tapped down the mask and used the air brush tight in to it to get the paint through it. Ahhhh, at last *sobs, shoulders bobbing* at long, long last. I've cracked it for the look and scale again. It also marries up proper with the bases. Once all done, a gloss varnish and some oil washes. I should have done this from the start but, eh, what seemed like a short cut at the time, has been quite the opposite. Still, you live and learn.





So as not to bore you all with my same old trial and tribulation, here is a pic of something else. The walls.

 

ManicMan

Member
Good in the first place, but if you have been able to work on your skills and made it better, then that's better ^_^
 

JonAtron

Member
Been doing the odd bit here and there to it and it's slowly taking shape. I'm 100% pleased with the choice to redo the marble (so many times). Currently working on the pulpit where the narratives antagonists will be. Need a door to get in, so we'll work something up.





I chose to go with the purple Land Raider Prometheus, instead of the Spartan. The larger tank fits perfect but the cold off white of its hull and the cold off white of the marble makes for a lot of off white and despite its size, it just does not pop like the purple beast.





Not that it shows much (and sadly it wont be back lit), but I did endeavour to go the stained glass window route for anyone who has a closer inspection of the board.




The fire is a looped video on an old mobile phone. Look pretty nice to have the brightness and movement on the static board. just need to work that pile of bodies proper. They are just a bunch of loose plastic bits for proof of concept.
 

JonAtron

Member
Few things simultaneously in progress. Pile of bodies for the fire place, the state and pillars and the pulpit coming along.


 

JonAtron

Member
Drilled out the flames and skulls eyes for a flicker led to fit. Looks better 'in the flesh'. For the other flames behind I'll carve some fire out of some glue gun squirts to make clear flames.



The board is getting there, filling out and juuuust needing a few more gribley bits and weathering to make it look 'lived in'

Poor priests, shrimp on the bbq.




The overall board.



 

Eric

Administrator
You could try putting mirrored plasticard behind the stained glass. I did that for the bases of my crystals and whilst it doesn't perform miracles it did make them quite a bit brighter just reflecting the ambient light back through.

It's all looking rather good. I think the change in scale and wall detailing was certainly the right way to go.
 

ManicMan

Member
I was wondering about suggesting a nice LED defuser and a couple of strips to light up, as there is already power, but it's debatable depending on what kinda look you are going for.. though with the right resisitors or a few little cheats with the driver circuit, you can do a nice low glow
 
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