ManicMan
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Been sorting out some of my old Space Wolves (1/2Ed 40K) and deciding apart from sorting them out and gonna paint up some which weren't, and redo some which are just.. crap, that I want to fix up some figures which were always damaged and fill in some gaps. (Like I got a Njal Storm caller Rune Priest but it had been slightly converted, or more cut ready.. So his Raven hand and raven is missing and the top of his staff is missing. I did patch up the staff (though not in the best way so I wanna redo that) but never fixed the Raven Hand.. but I got stuff to deal with that.. also some of this is gonna be some good sculpting practice).
Anyway.. I never had a Servitor to go with my 2 copies of the Space Wolf Iron Priest. Looking at some bits I got, I got more then enough to make up a nice one.. But then I didn't know too much about them other then the Space Wolf Codex and the original Rogue trader.. well.. lets look at and maybe some people can fill me in on some of the lore..
In Rogue Trader.. there was no such thing. You first have the Adeptus Mechanicus, Aka the Tech-Priests. "They are the ones which use Ancient Arcane Technology, the last remnants of what (in a more primitive age) would be called Science." It later states that the Adeptus Mechanicus are the Servitors of technology. "Their Organisation is monasterial and asectic, their devotion to technical research is sustained by a driving dedication which may be likened to religious zeal. In the age of the Imperium science and technology walk hand-in-hand with magic, mysticism and superstition." ... "Consequently, the Tech-priests are regarded by many as Delivish wizards, dabblers in the old sciences left over from the Dark Age of Technology." ... "Tech-priests wear a simple uniform that echoes their monastic life-style, comprising a habit (usually white and often double breasted) and sandals. Their hair is tonsured as a symbol of their status" (if you don't know, it basically means the top of shaved but the edges aren't, like old Monks.. again, due to how they are shown as such).
well.. alot was changed when Rogue Trader became 40K and lead to what is confusing both 40K 1st and 40K 2nd (Normally I see Rogue Trader as 1st but many seam to NOT do that and with the figures, it looks like it was more early changing and phasing in stuff.. but anyway, that's a different matter). The Religious zeal was now applied to most if not ALL marines, making the Tech-priests not much different apart from the tech side.. Now, Space Wolves are based on Fantasy Barbarians, with more of a Norse feel (alot of Wolf stuff of course). Iron Priests are the Space Wolf versions of Tech-Priests. while my father has the Ultramarine rule book and I got the 2nd rule book and stuff, I never really paid too much attention to Space Marine chapters I didn't collect.. Which I only collected Space Wolves ^_^.. Anyway, the Space Wolf Priests were 3 types, the Wolf Priests, the Iron Priests and the Rune Priests. Wolf Priests were SW version of Apothecaries, Iron Priests are Tech Marines (cause now Tech-Priests are the HIGHEST rank, and Techmarines are the normal it seams, as there is a major point about the two types) And Rune Priests are Librarians.
Now, the info on Servitors stats this lore:
"Servitors are created by the Iron Priests as helpmates and servants. They are a weird combination of man and machine, Bio-engineered by the Iron Priests to perform specific tasks. Their bodies are grown from human gene-cells in vats of artificial nutrient, and although physically strong and robust, their minds are blank and incapable of development or of feeling much pain. Iron Priests insert Bio-programs into their Servitors' brains, and replace parts of their bodies with mechanical contrivances such as huge metal claws, infra-red sensors for eyes, and whatever specialised tools are required. Servitors operate many of the war engines and other machines of war that the Iron Priests make."
Fair enough and makes sense. But then when looking around I see alot of stuff from modern 40K.. where they are prisoners and people who have rejected space marine life/views and have been turned into undead cyborgs forced to work as nothing more then tools. in fact, even when completely dead, you have their skulls floating around with some tech strapped to it.. this is.. completely difference from what the Space wolves do and a far cry from what was the impression in Rogue Trader about what the Tech-Priest order was like.
I kinda gave up following up with 40K when they brought in the Necrons (remake of the Chaos Androids which were Undead for Space), then admitted they were crap because they were written for the next version of the rules that they wanted to release but wanted to bring out the figures early.. then the next version came out and I kinda lost interest.
So.. What were Servitor's like for other chapters in 1st/2nd and what the hell happened?
Anyway.. I never had a Servitor to go with my 2 copies of the Space Wolf Iron Priest. Looking at some bits I got, I got more then enough to make up a nice one.. But then I didn't know too much about them other then the Space Wolf Codex and the original Rogue trader.. well.. lets look at and maybe some people can fill me in on some of the lore..
In Rogue Trader.. there was no such thing. You first have the Adeptus Mechanicus, Aka the Tech-Priests. "They are the ones which use Ancient Arcane Technology, the last remnants of what (in a more primitive age) would be called Science." It later states that the Adeptus Mechanicus are the Servitors of technology. "Their Organisation is monasterial and asectic, their devotion to technical research is sustained by a driving dedication which may be likened to religious zeal. In the age of the Imperium science and technology walk hand-in-hand with magic, mysticism and superstition." ... "Consequently, the Tech-priests are regarded by many as Delivish wizards, dabblers in the old sciences left over from the Dark Age of Technology." ... "Tech-priests wear a simple uniform that echoes their monastic life-style, comprising a habit (usually white and often double breasted) and sandals. Their hair is tonsured as a symbol of their status" (if you don't know, it basically means the top of shaved but the edges aren't, like old Monks.. again, due to how they are shown as such).
well.. alot was changed when Rogue Trader became 40K and lead to what is confusing both 40K 1st and 40K 2nd (Normally I see Rogue Trader as 1st but many seam to NOT do that and with the figures, it looks like it was more early changing and phasing in stuff.. but anyway, that's a different matter). The Religious zeal was now applied to most if not ALL marines, making the Tech-priests not much different apart from the tech side.. Now, Space Wolves are based on Fantasy Barbarians, with more of a Norse feel (alot of Wolf stuff of course). Iron Priests are the Space Wolf versions of Tech-Priests. while my father has the Ultramarine rule book and I got the 2nd rule book and stuff, I never really paid too much attention to Space Marine chapters I didn't collect.. Which I only collected Space Wolves ^_^.. Anyway, the Space Wolf Priests were 3 types, the Wolf Priests, the Iron Priests and the Rune Priests. Wolf Priests were SW version of Apothecaries, Iron Priests are Tech Marines (cause now Tech-Priests are the HIGHEST rank, and Techmarines are the normal it seams, as there is a major point about the two types) And Rune Priests are Librarians.
Now, the info on Servitors stats this lore:
"Servitors are created by the Iron Priests as helpmates and servants. They are a weird combination of man and machine, Bio-engineered by the Iron Priests to perform specific tasks. Their bodies are grown from human gene-cells in vats of artificial nutrient, and although physically strong and robust, their minds are blank and incapable of development or of feeling much pain. Iron Priests insert Bio-programs into their Servitors' brains, and replace parts of their bodies with mechanical contrivances such as huge metal claws, infra-red sensors for eyes, and whatever specialised tools are required. Servitors operate many of the war engines and other machines of war that the Iron Priests make."
Fair enough and makes sense. But then when looking around I see alot of stuff from modern 40K.. where they are prisoners and people who have rejected space marine life/views and have been turned into undead cyborgs forced to work as nothing more then tools. in fact, even when completely dead, you have their skulls floating around with some tech strapped to it.. this is.. completely difference from what the Space wolves do and a far cry from what was the impression in Rogue Trader about what the Tech-Priest order was like.
I kinda gave up following up with 40K when they brought in the Necrons (remake of the Chaos Androids which were Undead for Space), then admitted they were crap because they were written for the next version of the rules that they wanted to release but wanted to bring out the figures early.. then the next version came out and I kinda lost interest.
So.. What were Servitor's like for other chapters in 1st/2nd and what the hell happened?