I wonder... 40K lore 'Servitors'

ManicMan

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Been sorting out some of my old Space Wolves (1/2Ed 40K) and deciding apart from sorting them out and gonna paint up some which weren't, and redo some which are just.. crap, that I want to fix up some figures which were always damaged and fill in some gaps. (Like I got a Njal Storm caller Rune Priest but it had been slightly converted, or more cut ready.. So his Raven hand and raven is missing and the top of his staff is missing. I did patch up the staff (though not in the best way so I wanna redo that) but never fixed the Raven Hand.. but I got stuff to deal with that.. also some of this is gonna be some good sculpting practice).

Anyway.. I never had a Servitor to go with my 2 copies of the Space Wolf Iron Priest. Looking at some bits I got, I got more then enough to make up a nice one.. But then I didn't know too much about them other then the Space Wolf Codex and the original Rogue trader.. well.. lets look at and maybe some people can fill me in on some of the lore..

In Rogue Trader.. there was no such thing. You first have the Adeptus Mechanicus, Aka the Tech-Priests. "They are the ones which use Ancient Arcane Technology, the last remnants of what (in a more primitive age) would be called Science." It later states that the Adeptus Mechanicus are the Servitors of technology. "Their Organisation is monasterial and asectic, their devotion to technical research is sustained by a driving dedication which may be likened to religious zeal. In the age of the Imperium science and technology walk hand-in-hand with magic, mysticism and superstition." ... "Consequently, the Tech-priests are regarded by many as Delivish wizards, dabblers in the old sciences left over from the Dark Age of Technology." ... "Tech-priests wear a simple uniform that echoes their monastic life-style, comprising a habit (usually white and often double breasted) and sandals. Their hair is tonsured as a symbol of their status" (if you don't know, it basically means the top of shaved but the edges aren't, like old Monks.. again, due to how they are shown as such).

well.. alot was changed when Rogue Trader became 40K and lead to what is confusing both 40K 1st and 40K 2nd (Normally I see Rogue Trader as 1st but many seam to NOT do that and with the figures, it looks like it was more early changing and phasing in stuff.. but anyway, that's a different matter). The Religious zeal was now applied to most if not ALL marines, making the Tech-priests not much different apart from the tech side.. Now, Space Wolves are based on Fantasy Barbarians, with more of a Norse feel (alot of Wolf stuff of course). Iron Priests are the Space Wolf versions of Tech-Priests. while my father has the Ultramarine rule book and I got the 2nd rule book and stuff, I never really paid too much attention to Space Marine chapters I didn't collect.. Which I only collected Space Wolves ^_^.. Anyway, the Space Wolf Priests were 3 types, the Wolf Priests, the Iron Priests and the Rune Priests. Wolf Priests were SW version of Apothecaries, Iron Priests are Tech Marines (cause now Tech-Priests are the HIGHEST rank, and Techmarines are the normal it seams, as there is a major point about the two types) And Rune Priests are Librarians.

Now, the info on Servitors stats this lore:
"Servitors are created by the Iron Priests as helpmates and servants. They are a weird combination of man and machine, Bio-engineered by the Iron Priests to perform specific tasks. Their bodies are grown from human gene-cells in vats of artificial nutrient, and although physically strong and robust, their minds are blank and incapable of development or of feeling much pain. Iron Priests insert Bio-programs into their Servitors' brains, and replace parts of their bodies with mechanical contrivances such as huge metal claws, infra-red sensors for eyes, and whatever specialised tools are required. Servitors operate many of the war engines and other machines of war that the Iron Priests make."

Fair enough and makes sense. But then when looking around I see alot of stuff from modern 40K.. where they are prisoners and people who have rejected space marine life/views and have been turned into undead cyborgs forced to work as nothing more then tools. in fact, even when completely dead, you have their skulls floating around with some tech strapped to it.. this is.. completely difference from what the Space wolves do and a far cry from what was the impression in Rogue Trader about what the Tech-Priest order was like.

I kinda gave up following up with 40K when they brought in the Necrons (remake of the Chaos Androids which were Undead for Space), then admitted they were crap because they were written for the next version of the rules that they wanted to release but wanted to bring out the figures early.. then the next version came out and I kinda lost interest.

So.. What were Servitor's like for other chapters in 1st/2nd and what the hell happened?
 

Eric

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Whilst I can't comment much on 40k past Rogue Trader I do find it fascinating just how mangled my memory of what I think of as (personal) "cannon" 40k is - I'd have sworn that servitors as in the vat grown and prison "victim" cyborg kind were in RT, but evidently not - I guess I just adsorbed the idea from later books and whatnot and I guess with things like Dreadnoughts being a thing and some of the art there were lots of similar concepts in RT. So nothing useful to add, but will be interested to read what anyone else can offer up (and I might put re-reading all the early GW RT fiction on my never ending reading list!)
 

ManicMan

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I'll have to double check the RT rule book but ... well, it's ordering of information is a bit of a mess ^_^

Dreadnoughts are very weird.. you have the 'dreadnought armour' which they say "Is also known as Terminator Armour" and basically is terminator armour as it still is I believe, then you have the Dreadnoughts which are large mech suits where a pilot rides in the middle, to the 40K coffin with a guy that is techinally dead but stuck in a slight 'near death' state in a giant mech because.. erm.. fully robotic is bad?.

and now everyone can come back from death anytime they like... they make no sense at all. (hell, in RT, read the section on the Emperor.. born countless millennia ago to mortal parents, as he grew he became stronger and stronger and hid in the background as empires rose and fell until, over ten thousand years ago, he began his struggle and created the age of the Imperium, his rule has been long and harsh and the strain of his constant vigilance has taken a heavy toll upon the man that was once human, for now his body can no longer support life and his shatter carcass remains intact only because it is held by a spirit itself sustained by the strangest of machinery - ancient artifacts constructed by the Emperor in an elder age".. then that went out the window and the whole Horus thing started.

anyway.. Servitors.. re-reading bits of RT lets see..

Humans (the average person) 'Although time and exposure to alien environments has created many mutations amongst the human stock, the greater majority remain untainted'

There are the standard 'Warriors of the Army' who are every day people drafted into the army. While not as tough or ruthless as the battle-brothers of the Legions astartes, nor are they as insanely dedicated as the Adeptus Arbites who form the fighting arm of the priesthood." Also described as being the bulk of the Imperial army, unlike the more special Space Marines. They also include 'Penal Legions: Military service as a warrior of the Imperium is a common sentence for Minor criminals. Their offences might include filling out tax returns incorrectly (wilful fraud, however, is a capital offence), overdue library books, failure to maintain drains, littering, etc. Service is for life".

Then 'mutated human' races which were human but mutated.. like squats, orgyuns, beastmen. Then aliens Eldar, and Ork, then the Ancient Slann and the modern day version (well, 40K).. lesser alien races including tyranids, and special cases like Genestealers before they were forced into being Tyranids (I'm I the only one that felt it never fitted when the tried to fuse the Genestealers into being Tyranids?)

Oh, a little bit on the Adeptus Ministorum, run by the Holy Synod of Terra. One major thing with them is the Adepta Sororitas, also known as the Sisterhood, an order of devotional warrior women'.. "is a penitent organisation where constant hardship, deprivation and arduous work as part of an unrelenting devotional regime." "Every single day, squads of battle-sisters descend upon unsuspecting departments of the adeptus terra, administering genetic and psychological tests in order to expose wrong doers, mutants and malcontents." how that great has changed.. far less... Dune now ^_^

anyway.. only a quick flip but.. nope.. nothing on Servitors are vat grown or prisoners.. the closest was the Warriors. (spell checker having a field day here)
 
Oh, a little bit on the Adeptus Ministorum, run by the Holy Synod of Terra. One major thing with them is the Adepta Sororitas, also known as the Sisterhood, an order of devotional warrior women'.. "is a penitent organisation where constant hardship, deprivation and arduous work as part of an unrelenting devotional regime." "Every single day, squads of battle-sisters descend upon unsuspecting departments of the adeptus terra, administering genetic and psychological tests in order to expose wrong doers, mutants and malcontents." how that great has changed.. far less... Dune now ^_^
It seems that original Sisters of Battle were pretty much a type of an Inquisitor.
 

ManicMan

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dig out dad's Ultramarine Codex.. mm.. I know the Ultramarines are kinda the 'purest' of the space marines, the most bland in a way, but with minor Greco-Roman stuff, but there is an awful lot of non-ultramarine stuff in that book.. some of the colour pages just about other marine chapters.. bit weird really..

anyway.. Servitors in that..
"Servitors are created by the Techmarines as assistants and servants. They are a ..." I'll stop there cause it's the same as Space Wolves but swap out Iron Priests for Techmarines, Helpmates for Assistants and.. that's it.. Still they are basically taking human DNA, growing a mindless body, slap on some robot parts and there you go. They are basically the same as any modern day home-grown flesh.. just far more advanced.. in fact.. I doubt it's a reference but Vat born in artificial nutrient is Frankenstein's monster.. (for people that only know.. well, have they done a version which ISN'T based on Universals version?, In the Original novel, Frankenstein took a slice of his own flesh, put it in a vat of artificial nutrients and grew his 'Monster'. The Flesh Golem and stealing and brain etc, was purely Universal's film version which has pretty much NO connection to the novel.. In the Novel, he is a pretty smart guy in that he learns quickly, his first memory is basically his father trying to kill him and running away. He then ends up learning from watching others how to behave and grows to really hate his cruel (in his eyes) father and wants to bring as much harm to him as he brought to him.)

soo.. still far removed from the forced techno prisoner slaves they have these days, or atleast seam to have these days..
 

ManicMan

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Ah.. So after RT rule book, they introduced the idea of Servitors like that, then in 40K changed them.. and then later changed them back? (unless the Imperial guard had prisoner ones... don't know.. Didn't collect them at all..
 
Ah.. So after RT rule book, they introduced the idea of Servitors like that, then in 40K changed them.. and then later changed them back? (unless the Imperial guard had prisoner ones... don't know.. Didn't collect them at all..
Taking into account that penal battalions and captured rebel forces are mentioned I think it's specifically an Imperial Guard thing.
 

ManicMan

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technically the Adeptus Mechanicus (and by extension the Techpriests/Techmarines) are said to be outside of the chapter system and are the Imperium, and kinda 'on lone' to chapters and stuff but since the Techmarines do 'go native', having some of their methods changed depending on the situration makes sense.
 
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