weazil
Moderator
Sorry for taking so long to get back to you about the day and 'interpret' the poll results.
I use 'interpret' loosely. Anyone reading the polls would be clear on the sort of things we should be offering:
So the ideal weekend seems to look something like this:
1 Day of 'big' wargaming - normal WFB3 with armies > 30 or so figures.
1 Day of 'skirmish' wargaming - smaller WFB3 based skirmishes - it seems especially focussed on the Realms of Chaos.
Within these 2 days, a lot of people wanted the option to pitch up and just play in some participation or demo games - even with a view to learn 3rd edition.
The 'big' games could be engaged in two ways:
The smaller games will most likely be focussed on RoC. Individual warbands face off against each other, or possibly two warbands face off against two other warbands. I believe many players will be able to offer spare warbands to allow players without figures to participate.
The demo games pretty much depend on members of the community bringing a scenario and some armies to supply that scenario and allow people to participate in what will probably be a GM'd game (as the figures will need to be babysat). Thantsants' Bloodbath at Orc's Drift is a good example of this - layout the scenario and allow players to just jump in. I would suggest any of the scenarios from 2nd ed, or possibly Forenrond's Last Stand (the game described in the back of the WFB3 rulebook).
Initially, I had thought to try and make very solid arrangements around the games, setting house rules, selection criteria for RoC forces, predetermination of who will fight who, but I realised that I was dangerously close to tournament thinking.
One thing that absolutely cannot happen is for tournament thinking to invade this event!
So, it feels like the right approach is actually to allow players to decide what sort of thing they would like to do. I think there should be some pre-determination of who will play who, but not based on anything other than one player on this forum contacting another and saying 'Hi I want to beat your face in with my Dark Elves, please say yes?'
This is not to say that this can't be done on the day, but by having this sort of arrangement, it allows players to construct a suitable style, scenario, size of game, etc that would work for them. For instance, it might be that you only have 1000 pts of painted figures available. You can simply post that you'd want to play at that size and wait for someone else to either say 'yes you can beat my face in' or 'how about we play a scenario where you have 1000pts and I have 5000pts and you have to survive for 4 turns' or 'if you can find another player with another 1000pt army like that then I'll play the two of you together' - you get the idea.
The main reason I'd recommend this is that players don't have to waste any time on the day trying to work a game out. That's not to say that if you just pitch up, you can't play - its just a way of setting a scenario and try to create the sort of game you want to play. You might even be able to post the two forces up here and ask someone to create a scenario for you.
I think this is a nice approach as it allows people to post what figures they have (or plan to have - it is 6 months away, after all), allowing people to choose games they would like to play. One could even add plogs to allow the community to watch the game develop. Virulent trash talking is recommended!
Which means that the only games that will be arranged by the organisers (me?) will be the demo games.
So the question is - do we feel that the self determination is the right approach - or, are we still thinking some level of organisation centrally is the right thing?
I use 'interpret' loosely. Anyone reading the polls would be clear on the sort of things we should be offering:
So the ideal weekend seems to look something like this:
1 Day of 'big' wargaming - normal WFB3 with armies > 30 or so figures.
1 Day of 'skirmish' wargaming - smaller WFB3 based skirmishes - it seems especially focussed on the Realms of Chaos.
Within these 2 days, a lot of people wanted the option to pitch up and just play in some participation or demo games - even with a view to learn 3rd edition.
The 'big' games could be engaged in two ways:
- Normal big game - two gamers arrange to play against each other with a certain size of game/scenario in mind.
RoC big game - one 'big' army facing many smaller 'skirmisher' forces who have collectively formed a larger force.
RoC big game - two sides comprised of many 'skirmisher' forces fighting against each other.
The smaller games will most likely be focussed on RoC. Individual warbands face off against each other, or possibly two warbands face off against two other warbands. I believe many players will be able to offer spare warbands to allow players without figures to participate.
The demo games pretty much depend on members of the community bringing a scenario and some armies to supply that scenario and allow people to participate in what will probably be a GM'd game (as the figures will need to be babysat). Thantsants' Bloodbath at Orc's Drift is a good example of this - layout the scenario and allow players to just jump in. I would suggest any of the scenarios from 2nd ed, or possibly Forenrond's Last Stand (the game described in the back of the WFB3 rulebook).
Initially, I had thought to try and make very solid arrangements around the games, setting house rules, selection criteria for RoC forces, predetermination of who will fight who, but I realised that I was dangerously close to tournament thinking.
One thing that absolutely cannot happen is for tournament thinking to invade this event!
So, it feels like the right approach is actually to allow players to decide what sort of thing they would like to do. I think there should be some pre-determination of who will play who, but not based on anything other than one player on this forum contacting another and saying 'Hi I want to beat your face in with my Dark Elves, please say yes?'
This is not to say that this can't be done on the day, but by having this sort of arrangement, it allows players to construct a suitable style, scenario, size of game, etc that would work for them. For instance, it might be that you only have 1000 pts of painted figures available. You can simply post that you'd want to play at that size and wait for someone else to either say 'yes you can beat my face in' or 'how about we play a scenario where you have 1000pts and I have 5000pts and you have to survive for 4 turns' or 'if you can find another player with another 1000pt army like that then I'll play the two of you together' - you get the idea.
The main reason I'd recommend this is that players don't have to waste any time on the day trying to work a game out. That's not to say that if you just pitch up, you can't play - its just a way of setting a scenario and try to create the sort of game you want to play. You might even be able to post the two forces up here and ask someone to create a scenario for you.
I think this is a nice approach as it allows people to post what figures they have (or plan to have - it is 6 months away, after all), allowing people to choose games they would like to play. One could even add plogs to allow the community to watch the game develop. Virulent trash talking is recommended!
Which means that the only games that will be arranged by the organisers (me?) will be the demo games.
So the question is - do we feel that the self determination is the right approach - or, are we still thinking some level of organisation centrally is the right thing?
