How big is this going to get?

[Magos Explorator]

Just because we don't post doesn't mean we don't care

Great point! Also - this is the world's best first post MS!

Agreed! I also try not to post too much as I either worry about not having much meaningful to say (and still feel sheepish I haven't posted any pics of my models yet) or because I think I'll spend more time than I really feel good about on the boards, rather than painting.

Also, Mahwell skel - Iain M. Banks fan? (I am!)

Back on topic: it would be interesting to see the stats of 'active users' by whatever metric as a function of time, as well as that of total members. I would suspect they'll plateau as there's probably a fairly finite number of interested people. I found the board through Orlygg's RoC blog, which I in turn found as a link was posted on DakkaDakka to one of his interviews. I suspect that blog and a few others have been responsible for drawing a lot of people here. It would be interesting to see signup rate statistics and see if it's been gradual or if timings of certain blog posts have led to spikes, in order to gauge what the likely plateau will be.

In a way I am glad the boards are not overwhelmed with thousands of posts daily as I feel it is still small enough that I can try to read everything, and keep some reasonable degree of memory as to who is who. But perhaps I am getting old.

 

[Chico]

And don't forget the Oldhammer FB group there at 519 members even with the cross over, together the Oldhammer movement is getting chunky

 

[whiskey priest]

I was wondering how much of an overlap there actually is between here and the FB group, I know there seems to be a slightly different crowd over there.

 

[Count Von Bruno]

I found this forum thanks to Orlygg's blog too, which I found posted on Warseer.

I also rarely have anything meaningful to say, but I don't let that stop me posting

 

[Magos Explorator]

I found this forum thanks to Orlygg's blog too, which I found posted on Warseer.

I also rarely have anything meaningful to say, but I don't let that stop me posting

Ah, whatever you may feel about your words, you do have pretty pictures!

 

[Zhu Bajie]

The community has managed to have a reasonably adult discussion about 'difficult' subject matter, and I'm glad we didn't end up with Pony Wars on our hands.
We haven't seen much of Fathers Ted and Dougal, which is nice.

I don't get any of these references. It makes that oldhammer 40+ gamers logo spring to mind (though I may be off the mark there) for reference getting and I'm just fine with it.

Pony Wars was a thread about the OOP historical wargame "Pony Wars", the discussion became quite heated - largely because one user objected morally to historical wargaming and disagreed that we should even discuss such matters on this forum. Unfortunately the moderators took it upon themselves to lock and then delete the thread. However, the community had not given license to moderators to make decisions about what content is, or is not, appropriate to this forum - their job was to moderate, not editorialise, to police but not to write the laws. Subsequently all the moderators resigned, and our new all-powerful overlords stepped into their shoes and have provided excellent moderation ever since.

Much of the introspective "what Oldhammer means" seems to stem from this incident - insofar as people want to ensure the forum to be a space to discuss their peculiar interests. Personally, If I had a copy of it, I'd bring back discussion of Pony Wars tomorrow, it's an interesting ruleset.

Father Ted and Father Dougal show up to remind people not to link to illegally distributed PDFs or sites about recasting miniatures - "Careful Now, Down with this Sort of thing" - it pertains to an overly polite form of protest. Father Ted is a comedy TV series, well worth watching.

Ladies with Goats? It's totes amazeballs, dotchaknow? YOLO #goat lolz

 

[Just John]

Pony Wars was a thread about the OOP historical wargame "Pony Wars", the discussion became quite heated - largely because one user objected morally to historical wargaming and disagreed that we should even discuss such matters on this forum. Unfortunately the moderators took it upon themselves to lock and then delete the thread. However, the community had not given license to moderators to make decisions about what content is, or is not, appropriate to this forum - their job was to moderate, not editorialise, to police but not to write the laws. Subsequently all the moderators resigned, and our new all-powerful overlords stepped into their shoes and have provided excellent moderation ever since

That is a slightly one sided view of the incident. Another view would be that members of the community requsted that something be done about the thread because of the heated nature of the debate and that the modetrators, in discussion with the original author of the thread, locked and then deleted it. The mods then resigned because a small number of the forums members wouldn't let things lie and it was beginning to disrupt the day to day enjoyment of the forum. Fresh start and new beginninbgs and much fun for all since then

 

[Fimm McCool]

Father Ted and Father Dougal show up to remind people not to link to illegally distributed PDFs or sites about recasting miniatures - "Careful Now, Down with this Sort of thing" - it pertains to an overly polite form of protest. Father Ted is a comedy TV series, well worth watching.

Sites selling recasts maybe... not neccesarily casting for personal use.

 

[Erny]

Even recasts for personal use are strictly speaking against the letter of the law. There may be a problem with enforcing however.

 

[Fimm McCool]

Then whilst I fully endorse the recasting of out of production (only) models for personal use I will refrain from posting how-tos on this forum. They'll be on my blog if anyone wants them.

 

[phreedh]

Then whilst I fully endorse the recasting of out of production (only) models for personal use I will refrain from posting how-tos on this forum. They'll be on my blog if anyone wants them.

The problem with recasting for personal use is that eventually those recasts might end up on a marketplace somewhere somehow and if not easily identifiable will eventually lead to someone buying something under false pretenses. In theory I agree that you're free to do what you want with your own possessions. If I want to copy my spectrum game casettes to have one for my speccy in the loft and one for my speccy in the basement, then I should be able to do that without being criminalized.

 

[Erny]

Then whilst I fully endorse the recasting of out of production (only) models for personal use I will refrain from posting how-tos on this forum. They'll be on my blog if anyone wants them.

I'm a keen follower of your blog

 

[Citadel Collector]

spectrum game casettes

Thank you for that nostalgia wave

 

[Chico]

I'd never recast now.... I'd get someone to do it for me instead! hehe

 

[Asslessman]

I'd never recast now.... I'd get someone to do it for me instead! hehe

[CAUGH] Green stuff [CAUGH] squats pressmoulding [CAUGH]

 

[Chico]

I'd say ''now'' ... bloody Frog...

 

[Just John]

If I want to copy my spectrum game casettes to have one for my speccy in the loft and one for my speccy in the basement, then I should be able to do that without being criminalized.

Ah the memories. When I was a young lad we used to buy, oh hang on I better rephrase that. When I was a young lad I knew a group of fellas who would buy a speccy game between them and copy said game multiple times. They would then render said tape unreadable using sellotape and return it for another game. Rinse and repeat. Worked quite well apparently and the shops never really twigged. So I heard anyway...

 

[Zhu Bajie]

Pony Wars was a thread about the OOP historical wargame "Pony Wars", the discussion became quite heated - largely because one user objected morally to historical wargaming and disagreed that we should even discuss such matters on this forum. Unfortunately the moderators took it upon themselves to lock and then delete the thread. However, the community had not given license to moderators to make decisions about what content is, or is not, appropriate to this forum - their job was to moderate, not editorialise, to police but not to write the laws. Subsequently all the moderators resigned, and our new all-powerful overlords stepped into their shoes and have provided excellent moderation ever since

That is a slightly one sided view of the incident. Another view would be that members of the community requsted that something be done about the thread because of the heated nature of the debate and that the modetrators, in discussion with the original author of the thread, locked and then deleted it. The mods then resigned because a small number of the forums members wouldn't let things lie and it was beginning to disrupt the day to day enjoyment of the forum. Fresh start and new beginninbgs and much fun for all since then

Forum threads simply don't have "original authors". Erny isn't responsible for this thread, nor what anyone else writes in it. Moderators made poor moderation decisions, moderators were replaced. It's water under the bridge. Happy to discuss it over PM and an internet beer if you like, rather than disrupt this thread further.

 

[Zhu Bajie]

Then whilst I fully endorse the recasting of out of production (only) models for personal use

I find this view suprising!

If (for example) your Marsh Demons went OOP, because the orderbook ran dry, you'd be perfectly happy for me to sell the 10 models I have to 10 people, then each of those people recast 100 of their models for their own personal armies - thereby creating 1000 unauthorised copies of your work? I'd be quite annoyed by that.

 

[Fimm McCool]

If (for example) your Marsh Demons went OOP, because the orderbook ran dry, you'd be perfectly happy for me to sell the 10 models I have to 10 people, then each of those people recast 100 of their models for their own personal armies - thereby creating 1000 unauthorised copies of your work? I'd be quite annoyed by that.

I predicted that line of enquiry. If my models were no longer available because I'd discontinued them and had moved on to other things I would be absolutely fine with somebody duplicating them for personal use. It's not like I suffer by them doing it because I'd discontinued the line. Now if they were to do it whilst I was still selling them I'd be a bit annoyed, but I keep my prices as low as I can (bearing in mind I need to make some small profit from each sale) because I want wargaming to be accessible to all regardless of budget and I'm aware that even then it makes collecting a sizeable army quite expensive so a degree of ingenuity (and yes, even home-casting for personal use) is to be applauded if it allows someone to play more cheaply.