Goblin Green bases - flock or sand?

[Raffles]

Yeah, there's even Bryan Ansell's collection here. Again, photographs but some are taken with flash light or direct light. You're spot on I think with your bases.

Bryan Ansell's Collection - CcmWiki

www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com

Thank you, that's an excellent link and I've added it to favourites!

 

[Loose Loser]

In 1998, I think, were already those bolt gun shell pots ( I think they call them like that ) or that with the lid? I think lid was later but clear hex pot was the same. That Goblin Green was different then that from late 80s early 90s Goblin Green. More to the blue side while early Goblin Green was to the yellow side. Sometimes, looking at old photos of minis, seems to me they've used something like Scorpion Green drybrush before yellow. Or they did drybrush while Goblin Green was still wet.

On other hand, I getting same results like you. Phone isn't best for taking pictures so won't bother with images right now.

 

[Raffles]

Sorry can't resist as that link clearly shows the different greens that were used.



These are GG.

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These pics below aren't, they look like the modern Warlord Green but must be a different old colour.

Here you can clearly see the different greens with GG on the sides and the different one in the middle.

I guess that also makes it official that there was no hard standard for green base colours.

 

[Loose Loser]

No standards that for sure. One member here also mentioned that those old hex pots tend to be slightly of in hue time to time.

Other thing is that I've experienced ( canvas painting ) that cheaper acrylics tend to get darker over time ( as mostly all acrylics ), when truly ( fully ) dry. For instance, I have never experienced that heavy darkening with Liquitex Soft/Heavy Body or with GOLDEN acrylics, but some cheaper acrylics like W&N Galeria, Liquitex BASICS, uf and there was one deadly brand, cannot remember but that acrylic, uf, that was murder. Smell was unholy and that thing hardened almost to hard plastic not to mention difference in colour once fully dried.

Also, on that link, there might be some rebasing taking place. Not to mention, depends on the undercoat also but Citadel always had nice coverage. Vallejo got also nice but those paints are plastic once dried even on wet palette.

There, in Eldar link, are nice collection of unfinished minis. Nice to see that also.

EDIT : Funny stuff, but. Maybe you could find someone that sells old mini from 80s or early 90s, painted then of course with Goblin Green base, for cheap. I did bought many with bases from those years so I'll search through bases because I remember seeing yellowish green hehe funny stuff

 

[ManicMan]

I thought they had dropped Goblin green by the time the Hex pots came out.. oh well. It's a bugger getting paint mixtures and alot of 'convertors' you find are pretty crap.. while it's pretty tricky, I find a good idea is to just work out the colour on a digital image, to get the RGB value.. While it's not perfect, you can then use that to get a rough idea of how to mix the paint using Red Green and Blue (if you can get a good pure enough one). While, like I said, it's far from perfect, it's a good base line at times.

Also, back in the 80s-90s, there wasn't a "house style" to painting. Different painters painted things differently.. I wouldn't expect a Bryan Ansell guide/figure to carry the same mixture as a Mike McVey guide/figure.

 

[Loose Loser]

I don't think you could pin point colour like that for mixing. You'll get hues that you most likely couldn't mimic.

Problem is that Goblin Green or any other colour is hustle to mix because of bad reference. What should be looked is how that colour looks wet. Because if you mix that colour on the photo, even you nail it, once dry will be different haha my word. It's easier to stop smoking for a few days and give for unopened alive pot something like artist quality acrylics or even more hehe

On video from Crown of Command ( I think ) and Not Daren Latham, that Goblin Green is very bright green. But it seems that once dry it goes darker toward bubonic olive colour?

It looks to me like a mix of, something like Snot Green and Bubonic Brown with drop of lighter colour.

 

[ManicMan]

like I said, it's a good base idea but not perfect. RGB is also the same way the human eye works (by the way ^_^) so it's a fair base I find.

 

[Loose Loser]

Give it a go since, from my side, photos are better then ever.

This one is Elysian Green, from newer range of Citadel Colours.

This one is Forest Green, also from newer range. I think it's lovely colour for darker armies.

This one is Coat D'Arms Goblin Green.

First from the left is Coat D'Arms Goblin Green ( Jarvis flock on top ) and for second base I cannot remember what happened there ( the top is C D'A GG ). Drybrushed with Yriel Yellow and later with Flash Gitz Yellow ( both newer Citadel ).

Now the fun part. Did find some older bases and take photo of the lot. Worst part is they're different then those from the pot? Some are more to the yellow side.

Without auto colour correction in PS.

Same image with auto colour correction in PS.

There's plenty of images in WDs and army books that are on yellow side or they're killed with contrast or similar. Really hard to pin point what that 80s Goblin Green looks like. Depends on undercoat as well even what I see from videos, it's got really good coverage.

Little snips of videos that puzzle me even further.

Not "that bloke" Daren Latham video snip.

Crown of Command snips

For the end, this is I believe auto correct image. From same CoC video. Also, lip sheen of Goblin Green tall one, next to OG GG looks like flat surface of OG GG, so I guess little bit of yellow would help? Unfortunately they're not photographed dead on but from various angles.

On some images it looks like white colour, or screaming skull type would help, then on others yellow would help or ochre or similar.

 

[Raffles]

Well after a few evenings of painting, dry brushing, cutting off the bases of my old Skaven and regluing, this is the result.

"Hello manthing, yes-yes. Do you have time to hear about our Lord & Saviour?"

I'm afraid my painting skills aren't up to much yet so this is still sort of a work in progress. I made some of the tatty capes with Green Stuff. They're also the newer models but with the return of the Old World I'm going to still embrace a retro 90s feel, I think I need to paint them in brighter colours though with more reds, yellows and blacks as they were prevalent at the time. I think this is the closest I can get to the 1994/5 WD style. The pics are taken with artificial light at night, they might look better on my old grass battle mat with daylight, but you get a general idea.

This is from WD 173 May 1994 and the best pic of what I'm trying to achieve that I have found. I think maybe it looks more effective on the original smaller squares.

Only 80 or so left to paint up and glue......

 

[ManicMan]

bases look good ^_^ 20mm is standard for the average regiment figure.. so.. I guess they want 25mm now? weird.. but oh well. each to there own

 

[Raffles]

I guess the one good thing is 25mm is roughly 1 inch so they could also be used for DnD.

 

[Raffles]

I've just ordered some Warhammer night goblins as part of the gits vanguard. I'm going to put them on GG 25mm bases too to see how they look.

I'm also painting up the Skaven to have brighter colours, the grimdark is far too bleak.