do conferences count?

[twisted moon]

just had this: https://warhammer-conference.com/ pointed out to me. apparently some of the talks can be viewed online.
note that when they say 'all things warhammer' they seem to mean modern wh40k.

 

[ManicMan]

It's a show.. so.. sure.. but yeah. does seam to just me bad advertising for modern products..

 

[Fimm McCool]

Calling it a conference is a bit serious isn't it? That would imply people sitting around a table talking subjects rather than having any fun playing games.

 

[Brother Meredith]

Appears to be a straight up academic conference with pretentious paper titles and all!

 

[ManicMan]

been done before for miniature gaming and I've seen the odd warhammer/GW based academic paper but if you are having to cut out SOO much to just focus so narrowly like that, it's use in academic circles is gonna be... very low.

 

[Orjetax]

I’m sure everyone here has read The Practice of Oldhammer: Remembering a Past through Craft and Play (Williams & Tobin 2021)?!?

https://journals.sagepub.com/eprint/7XPBYCUW2KE8B86KY5EB/full

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[symphonicpoet]

^Huh! Very interesting. Downloaded it and gave it a start. Will finish later, but it definitely looks like one worth saving. Neat to see it referencing others. Apparently we are now the locus of a whole cycle of academic papers. Professors playing with toy soldiers! (I really need to find a way to work toy soldiers into a symphony.)

 

[Orjetax]

I must say that this conference looks great.

Pictures are circulating on blue sky.

These I have screenshotted from games researcher @rosgakori.Bsky.social

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[Eric]

Don't tell me the "lead pile" phrase is dying ... granted I have come across "plastic crack" a fair few times among the young things, but my veins still flow with the heavy metals of lore as it should be!

I shall have to re-read the paper however, I seem to recall reading it before, but I don't remember much!

 

[Orjetax]

Don't tell me the "lead pile" phrase is dying ... granted I have come across "plastic crack" a fair few times among the young things, but my veins still flow with the heavy metals of lore as it should be!

I shall have to re-read the paper however, I seem to recall reading it before, but I don't remember much!

Metal will always be best.

We did have our fun plastics though …

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[Eric]

We had the best of times

I always found it weird (although I understand the marketing plan) how Citadel went from quite clever multipart plastics to the era of monopose madness before eventually getting to the modern monopose (for the most part), but impressive sculpting (although not all to my taste). Coming at it from the modelling side of things when young I really didn't at the time understand why the "new stuff" seemed less good than my old stuff!

 

[ManicMan]

I don't get why soo many companies that do plastic (or sometimes resin ¬_¬) are very monopose but tons and pieces and I look at some of them and think.. "you have no reason for making this in this many pieces apart from to annoy people"

 

[Geroak II]

Always interested in psychology and human behaviour, so that 'Pile of shame phenomenon' does sound interesting. I wonder if they recorded this event and will upload it on youtube or somewhere else.

 

[Eric]

monopose but tons and pieces

I think generally the multiple pieces approach to plastics (especially) is mostly down to mold extraction, so essentially working around limitations on what is physically possible when getting a bit of plastic out of a steel mold. If you get to see the most recent Space Hulk terminators you'll see some really drawn out bits where the designs were compromised to allow for molding in one piece. The old RTB01 shoulder studs are another good example where they couldn't be more like the lead models since they had to come out of the mold. Then I am sure there is a little bit of curtly sprinkled on top just for good measure

I wonder if they recorded this event and will upload it on youtube

Alas their YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@manchestergamecentre/videos) looks to be fairly quiet - no updates in a year. It'd be interesting to hear what they had to say. I always quite like a clean take on subjects like this since for so many the/their hobby is close to their heart it can be hard to see why companies might do one thing or another.

 

[ManicMan]

yeah, some of it does make sense because of how the steel moulds work, simpler to but not the same as rubbers, but I've seen bits where it's all on a flat front line where.. there is no reason why it's cut like that. Not really plastic, but I've got a resin one which was SOO hard to deal with because they put a hand with a walking stick as a second piece despite the fact that it is on the same flat plane as the rest of the model. there are no undercuts or anything.. in fact, when it's glued in place, it even joins up with the tab which would have made it even easier for casting. There are times when yes, I will say it is better to be in multiparts cause of ease of removing from the mould or for quality (like if you really don't want to put the cut line on a certain plane.

 

[Eric]

Going off on a tangent (sorry), but it's one of the things that makes me smile with 3D printing - that for really good prints you have to consider the design and orientation and how it might be supported to reduce the appearance of any layer lines and damage from support removal, ideally the sculptor takes that all into consideration. So despite it being "the new tech" similar problems as have been kicking around since day one in the world of miniatures!

 

[ManicMan]

oh and some people/companies who think 3D printing can do stuff it can't, thus you get really small snap in a second details which have a low print success ^_^