Brother Meredith
Lord
Cept the heretic prefers the later-day metal sculpts… No accounting for taste! 😉
Copplestone Marine Scout
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orkwrangler
Baron
I think he's trying to build a space marine army with old models he can use in 2nd edition & 11th edition, which might be no small task.
Knight Girl
Vassal
I'm doing something like that, except I don't care about the modern rules. I'm looking at things like "One Hour Skirmish" for more modern rules.
Brother Meredith
Lord
Indeed, the videos are mainly wishlisting ATM. 😉
Not a massive fan of the late 2nd Ed scout sculpts (http://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/index.php?title=1088_Space_Marine_Scouts), but the sniper ones are a cool touch.
willlucv
Vassal
When I actually get my arse in gear and turn out to play at my local club I will essentially be using 1st Ed/2nd Ed 40k miniatures to play 11th Edition (I hope). As I will have masses of infantry, no tanks and no special characters it'll be interesting to see how successful this approach will be (I support Nottingham Forest so I'm used to losing week in week out).
Rogue Blooper
Vassal
I think the bolt ‘pistols’ got way too big, they just don’t look like they’d be a viable gun.
Brother Meredith
Lord
Err… I don’t go to 40k expecting anything approaching realism. 😂
You may be interested in the Wier brothers who painstakingly convert bolters to “realistic” sizes: https://www.betweenthebolterandme.com/2022/07/tutorial-converting-umbra-pattern.html
You may be interested in the Wier brothers who painstakingly convert bolters to “realistic” sizes: https://www.betweenthebolterandme.com/2022/07/tutorial-converting-umbra-pattern.html
Rogue Blooper
Vassal
I haven’t got religion about it, but there are limits. I mean, Space Marines armour is out of proportion but the chaos armour gets mental in some sculpts.
Rogue Blooper
Vassal
I like those conversions. I also got wound up by the ‘Aliens’ M41-A Pulse Rifle having a 10mm bullet, and 95 rounds in the clip, but the magazine isn’t half a meter long (assuming it is double stacked).
orkwrangler
Baron
If I remember correctly, Citadel models were all out of proportion because Bryan Ansell made that the house style. It all veered toward miniatures as gaming pieces that you could recognise from a distance.
Knight Girl
Vassal
That makes good sense, I always appreciate the "readability" of Citadel Miniatures on the table.
Fimm McCool
Lord
Strong silhouette was definitely their (sound) design choice.
willlucv
Vassal
Oddly the first plastic Beakies had quite realistic sized bolt pistols, even the bolt guns were quite slender.
Stuck a modern day marine in the shot for the lulz.
Rogue Blooper
Vassal
Quite - that is my benchmark. By the time of those scouts, the gun is 4-5x the size and looks incongruous as a pistol. It’s cartoony, which is fine, but a bit like a las cannon having S:9 and being shoulder mounted, and then massive tanks having heavy bore cannons one mark higher at S:10, it’s the sci-fi consistency principle.
If they are all massive, fine, if they are all tiny, fine, but if two weapons have the same impact but appear at wildly different scales it just looks odd.
Brother Meredith
Lord
Yup, they are big and silly. I recall finding the RTB01 pistols looked too small as had been conditioned to view them at a different size!! 😅
Think the size standard had been defined by end of RT, subsequent editions of the scout maintained the same pistol size until the Primaris designs put a spanner in the works. 😉 https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Space_Marine_Scout#Equipment
Think the size standard had been defined by end of RT, subsequent editions of the scout maintained the same pistol size until the Primaris designs put a spanner in the works. 😉 https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Space_Marine_Scout#Equipment
area23
Vassal
Copplestone only worked two years for GW but he was and still is my favourite sculptor. Never gets much credit though for his space marines, guards, gangers. No interviews anywhere. I remember in RT acording to the basic rules, or lack thereof, scouts would've been just marines but not in powered armour.
I never thought that one of the scouts' bolters was an ork gun!
Here are mine, Harkonnen style maniacs.
I never thought that one of the scouts' bolters was an ork gun!
Here are mine, Harkonnen style maniacs.
area23
Vassal
I always figured Mark left GW mid or late 1989 to join Grenadier. These scouts being among his last releases.
Fantasy Warriors was released (early?) 1990 and he made half of the miniatures including the plastic orcs and dwarfs. Unless he worked for both for a while.