Classic Space Marine Captains on made to order

Brother Meredith

Brother Meredith

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On today’s pre-order community page:
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A crop of classic Space Marine miniatures return for a limited time, including characters from yesteryear that are sure to give Warhammer veterans that warm, nostalgic feeling.

Classic Jes Goodwin sculpts! Guess they won’t be cheap, but will save on certain eBay prices. I wonder if they will all come with the metal backpack with cloak?
 
have to look through alot of rubbish to find them ^_^. the Space Wolf one would be nice to pick up but I really think, with the price of the elder lot, it's gonna be stupid.

Also don't like it that they have changed his backpack. He came with a caped one (I think there were two versions of the caped backpack he came with)... in fact, didn't all captains have capes? kinda the thing which pointed them out as Captains?... pretty sure they did..
 
Yes, the original release of the Captains came with the cloak backpack, but likely they were released without them subsequently before the went OOP.
 
resin costs are more.

But I'll leave that to others around here, like ones who run their own companies to fully explain. But Resin costs more.
 
Tin price is at an all-time high thanks to the big orange baby. But probably still cheaper than resin. Certainly faster to cast with.
 
I found a blog post by Maggie Bennett that discusses the differences in process, mold materials, mold longevity, etc. It appears the resin manufacturing process is more expensive. Perhaps there's an existing stock of molds; perhaps employee training & availability factor into it.
 
I think Brother Meredith is probably right, they have the Finecast moulds to hand so are using those rather than create new. Presumably the last metal ones were lost, damaged or destroyed. With the captains I guess they either still have the moulds from the last runs or they have remade them from their 1st gen masters.

Bit of a shame the four captains are being sold as a single pack, that (much like it did for me with the Eldar) probably is going to push them too high to bother picking up, I'd not have minded the Space Wolf chap. Doubt they will be the £2.50 each I paid for a captain last time round, also I suppose since this chap is still not painted buying even more models is a bit foolhardy...

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That said I might get the mixed armour set however if it's not too crazy expensive, but I expect it might well be £70 for the five models :(
 
It's odd sometimes GW seems to do reasonable pricing (well I mean "reasonable" in quotes when I say that), like the Marauder giant which was something like £45-50 (I forget quite), or the trolls which were not too bad (or the ogres I just picked up since I had a voucher to use 3 ogres £38 which seems just about okay). Then sometimes they seem to do "hero pricing" where things are just daft. The Eldar made to order had some individual models at ~£25 and again they did the bundling which is a pain when you don't really want them all (looking back that was a bundle of the phoenix lords and avatar for £77).

Well fingers crossed it's more like £30-40 for these sets - I think they'd sell more if they priced them a little lower, but based off the Eldar pricing it might be reasonable to sadly expect £10-12 per marine, which is more than I want to pay for a "nice to have" model. I mean I bought the Heresy Armour marine off ebay for £7.50 a month or two ago! And nearly bought three of the Thunder armour ones, but it went over the £25 I was willing to pay.
 
Eric said:
Presumably the last metal ones were lost, damaged or destroyed. With the captains I guess they either still have the moulds from the last runs or they have remade them from their 1st gen masters.
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I probably repeat this all too often, but production moulds are a disposable item, they wear out and get remade using master figures.

The production moulds for mail order only stuff were disposed of in two massive skips (one half went into each skip to make it impossible to reuse them!) back when they ended the mail order bitz service around the year 2000 or so.

Having said that, GW archives have master metals for pretty much every figure going back to the preslotta days, so if they really wanted to they could remake pretty much anything.
 
Eric said:
It's odd sometimes GW seems to do reasonable pricing (well I mean "reasonable" in quotes when I say that), like the Marauder giant which was something like £45-50
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Yep, Pretty sure £50. Cause I don't have the original and the plastic second version isn't 100% awful, I picked up the plastic version of the Steam Tank and that was a fair enough price (could have been better but not awful) and the amount of spare pieces it comes with... some cause there were pieces which were stupid to put in place.

When they charge £25 for one mini, be it metal or plastic, that's just being stupid and it does seam, while it's not enough to really affect them, some people are noticing the amount of companies which are a lot more reasonable with their pricing.

For some reason, I don't think I have that space wolf captain, and while they did originally release them as a set before cutting them up into solo releases, I would only be interested in him alone but with the price they will most likely charge, it's not hard to make the figure. Just a space marine with a wolf head and then add some Space wolf trappings.
 
The whole in-house "kit bashing" is one of the things I rather like about hand sculpted miniatures, the head swaps, adding bits and so forth Citadel would do to create "new" models. Quite a lot of the Space Wolves of that era were like that. One or two of my terminators have wolf hair hangings on their storm bolters because the arm was acquired from elsewhere. I guess because it showed you what you could do yourself in some ways I rather liked it. It was always great when you occasionally saw the greens in WD done like this. I guess technically the re-use of elements in digital sculpting is not dissimilar, but like many have mooted before I like the more tactile essence of traditional work.

Thinking of those giants - I actually ended up with two giants. My first was missing the barrel and GW just send me an entire second one when I called up to ask if they had a barrel they could send me. So realistically given it's a pretty trivial conversion to add a barrel it made my giant rather an extreme bargain. Likewise with the three ogres with a £10 voucher that makes them £9.30 each which seems fairly reasonable given the pricing of minis these days (I acknowledge what I might want to pay might well differ from what they have to be sold for to make a living!). I've no huge objection to the idea of selling a "leader" for a little more if you're going to shift fewer of them, but you know more like a couple of quid more max.
 
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