Classic Skaven miniatures return via Made to Order

no. I have heard reports about some miscasting on some of there newer made to order stuff.

with the prices, I'm not too surprised GW are claiming to be having some problems.
 
Seeing many of these for the first time. Interesting they chose to slap the same price on all skaven heroes. Plaguelord Nurglitch is a nine piece mini (and looks quite big) yet costs the same as single piece casted Skrolk?

ManicMan said:
with the prices, I'm not too surprised GW are claiming to be having some problems.
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Come on, spill the beans. :)
 
plastic vs metal I would guess

oh, just the normal rumours of some notable money problems over the last few years with decrease sales, people getting fed up with there business practices, even alot of their paid advertisers (or what they call influencer, who (despite rules and kinda some laws) often refuse to admit paid advertising) have been turning against them.

I think they are kinda 'too big to fall quickly' (though it's always possible) cause even companies like Funko who are just leaking money at an alarming rate, somehow gain loans (really, when I did business studies and stuff, alot of what I learnt appear to be rubbish now.. things like 'Did a business in the area doing the same thing already fail? if yes, why do you think you can succeed where they didn't? I see alot of shops taking over a shop from a failed business, doing pretty much the SAME business, then failing.. how the hell gave you that loan? in fact, how can you raise loans of such a high amount when the last few years you lose Millions a year.. what idiot would grant you the money?)

GW (or Warhammer as they like to be called these days) really need to look at what others are doing and their roots to refocused the company but they are at the stage where they are never gonna have such extreme problems which would need such a thing to happen. So they aren't gonna bother. It's the old "Why should be fix something which is working, even if only to a degree? cause screwing with it might make it worse"
 
At those prices they should be having problems as a commercial venture. People will just turn away and spend on other things. As I've commented before in a past thread, the hardsale in your face practices in the local WARHAMMER stores will be not tolerated by some, just diehards who will go there anyway (already captivated customers). Besides people aren't stupid, they can go online or go out and buy proxies or kitbash to their hearts content, use other rules systems, etc, etc. Hey, even go play older GW rulsets (:D) or better still buy ones invented by ex employees of GW!
 
If you run a hobby shop, GW aren't being too nice to them. things like 'if you want to stock some, you HAVE to stock all', payment WAY up front (in fact, it can be quite a few months between you paying them and they getting around to being bothered to send some stock to you etc). but really, alot of gaming shops can't really NOT stock some GW/WH stuff.
 
ManicMan said:
plastic vs metal I would guess
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Nurglitch and Skrolk? They are both metal and in this MTO run. Seems GW just got lazy with pricing and thought 31€ each was fine. :roll:

I don't follow any influencer stuff so can't say how big of a deal that is but sounds somewhat minor in the big picture?
I think GW are doing just fine business-wise. So far people seem to be willing to pay what GW asks, even if grumbling about yearly price rise(s).

For anyone interested and not already knowing, they do release their annual reports and half year results:
https://investor.games-workshop.com/annual-reports-and-half-year-results
 
ah. I know Skrolk was, wasn't sure on that Nurglitch.

with the influencer bit.. I don't follow them either cause... why would I want to listen to someone being paid to tell me something is great? I would prefer a more fair review. but its kinda seen as a big thing with produce launches, or atleast with the amount of money GW throw at them (not always in physical cash but when you get a free voucher for £5 off or so, that's money they are technically spending, same with all them free mini promos and stuff... I don't 100% understand all the very detailed stuff and alot of creative accountancy)

Yeah, I know they do some of there reports. Alot of standard advertising, not quite everything listed due to how things work and how well.. for a company as big as them, with all the sub-branches and stuff.. 106 is kinda the summary? atleast it doesn't itemised greatly
 
It's "hero pricing" rather than "cost pricing". Same with the current stuff. I get a bit of extra on models you might sell fewer of, but the £23 or whatever it was is just silly. Every now and then with the Made-To-Order older stuff I think we're getting more sensible (not cheap, but at least understandable) pricing and then they do something like this again. Pop those in at ~£12 and yes it's a happy profit margin and you'd probably sell plenty more (and it's still way more than I'd ideally pay, but...).

:(
 
I still can't see the justification of some of the ridiculous pricing for modern plastics, over £50 for a single model in some cases. How anyone fields an army is beyond me. I looked at the goblin bloodbowl team - you're looking at about £150. There's a crap "lore" reason why you only get linemen in the team box for £35, then you'd need two further boxes at nearly £35 each with just 3 players each, then two trolls at nearly £25 each. All plastic. Madness.
 
ManicMan said:
If you run a hobby shop, GW aren't being too nice to them. things like 'if you want to stock some, you HAVE to stock all', payment WAY up front (in fact, it can be quite a few months between you paying them and they getting around to being bothered to send some stock to you etc). but really, alot of gaming shops can't really NOT stock some GW/WH stuff.
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Yes, going to ask my sons mate who owns a local hobby/games store (he stocks GW products cheaper than the WARHAMMER store) what the state of play is. The local BOYES store also stocks GW /WARHAMMER stuff (albeit older models and sets) at nearly third cheaper in some cases. It has a massive range of their paints and accessories etc also and other modelling paints (vallejo, army paints etc) scatter and 'terrain' supplies. It just doesn't make economic sense to go to the WARHAMMER store in this town, esp as you can order it online direct for newest models. Anyhow...
 
while those accounts they release are... "Cooked" as a friend of mine puts it (he isn't a professional but has accountancy training and done alot of it for businesses, I think it's interesting the amount they are spending on 'new stores' when... aren't they still in a closing stores.

The single customised standard is a bit pricey, though not awful paint job. the 4 copies of Iron Wielder (the Steel Rat) isn't bad for the price but got the model and not quite needing the spares right now ^_^ thanks though. Also.. never heard the term 'Tarpit' to refer to cannon fodder..
 
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