Descent into darkness - confessions of a re-caster

Eric

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Like many I started so innocently with no plans for my soul to be rent into a thousand pieces and to eke out a living among the vermin of ebay. This is my tale...

I've always been fond of EPIC scale titans and whilst I don't have any particular plans to re-collect or to actually get my EPIC Eldar army off my brother and actually paint the damn thing I have from time to time picked up the odd metal titan to repaint at some unspecified future point (or lifetime, damn there had better be reincarnation if I'm going to finish it all!). In this vein I managed to get hold of an Ork Great Gargant for a very reasonable price given they often seem to be stupid money. Into the paint stripper it went and happily sat there for a few days since I had no pressing need for it.

Now I normally scrub my paint off in an old tupperwear tub of water and I duly did this with the minis from the paint stripper, obviously the water gets a bit mucky and if you're doing plastic you do need to be careful not to loose it below the murk and have to spend ages trying to find it. Well one of the Gargant's feet was still glued to the skirt, the paint stripper had loosened it and a bit of scrubbing saw it detach and sink to the bottom. No problem thinks I, I'll ferret that out in a second. Needless to say my lead addled brain forgot and I managed to instead think "I need a change of water" and I chucked the old lot down the drain presumably along with the foot. Half an hour later and I realise my mistake ... que a succession of expletives the likes of which would burn the ears off most of the pantheon of Chaos. I did have a rummage in the drain, but with no luck and it's not on the workbench so I think it's busy contaminating the Dorset water supply now.

So what to do? ... I'm not paying £10,000 or whatever some ebay scalper wants for a Gargant food and luckily they are super simple sculpt wise and only just poke out under the Gartant's skirt anyway. A few minutes later and I have a small box glued together from foam core scraps. I clean up the remaining foot and I lightly tack (just with some PVA) to the bottom of the box and leave it all to dry. The following day I break out the silicone and the "causes death at 300 paces" vivid yellow catalyst for the silicone. Mix up a small amount and try not to introduce bubbles (one day I shall buy a vacuum chamber) and pour it over the foot. I left that curing on my ancient second hand dental cast shaker for a bit and went to curse my ineptitude again for throwing out the original foot.

The next day I broke out the mould and mixed up some resin (not a great one as it's a bit extra prone to bubbles, but it needs using) and poured some into the mould, back on the shaker and left to cure for 30 minutes. Turned out and the bottom trimmed off and flattened. Hopefully once on a base and painted no one will know of my faux-pas - well except anyone with Internet access of course - and it'll just be a horrible surprise for someone in years to come when they think they've bought a Great Gargant for a steal and strip it off to find one of those little slippers is nothing but a scummy recast ...

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Hopefully that will do, I might try a second cast to see if I get all the rivet details as one or two got nobbled by air bubbles, but let that be a job for another day.

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So that be a cautionary tale of throwing the baby out with the bathwater, lest you descend to the level of a re-caster and join me in my pit of sin...
 
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I'm on the side of 'there are times when 'personal use' is acceptable. I have brought Bootleg of old stuff whch is very rare and pricey, BUT the bootleg is cheaper produced, clearly marked bootleg, not as good but 'acceptable', there for I'm okay with it (like a few years back, Pound land had a series of packs featureing 6 knock-off transformers Micromasters and Minicons for.. £1!.. including a japanese only release figure.. Plastic was crap, the minicons I weren't interesting in and had details lost etc.. but.. for the price? clearly bootleg, but 17p each? compared to £50+ for a real one?... I painted up a knock off.. not gonna look original and stuff but it is something. and some of the others I hacked about for parts.. not something I would do with an original with the £50+ price tag.

now.. If it's bootleg but being sold as Original, with original prices? yikes.. but something like a missing foot.. I can live with myself ^_^
 
Quite, I thought it might raise a slight tongue-in-cheek smile :) I've no problem with people doing stuff for themselves, especially when restoring a model.

It's the selling as original that really gets my goat up, I mean even when they are priced at a point that tells you all might not be as it seems. A search today turned up these Plague Bearers on ebay for ahem £16. Totally legit I'm sure.
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What is going on with those feet ... not sure they were cast 30+ years ago and if they were why do a buy-it-now at £16 when you could ask for £45-50 and you'd not be priced above anyone else humm? Humbug. I've got a couple of Ogryn I think are probably recasts of a converted Ogryn, I'm still not quite sure if the seller knew. I'll probably still use them partially because I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable selling them on given my suspicions. There are plenty of certain high value minis on ebay where I'm sure there are too many being sold for them to not be modern re-casts.
 
We've all had our run-ins with the dark arts, either as buyers or model builders. I'd honestly even say most of it is fine as far as what we do here. Lots of us have at least tried our hands at sculpting, and there's absolutely no problem with casting up your own stuff. (I really need to finish that lady ogre and send her off to Curtis for the treatment.) But even the repair bit I figure falls within fair use. (Everybody involved got paid, after all, and it's a small portion done merely to fix a damaged original that would be painfully difficult to repair otherwise.) And I expect most of us have found things we suspect of being recasts, but at the end of the day I think all of us would much prefer to have nice, crisp, originals. (And try pretty hard to find such.)

I do a bit of press molding from time to time in my own modeling work. Build up a small detail thing, press green stuff down over it. Let it dry, and then wet the resulting thing and press it down on a dozen or more small blobs of green stuff to create copies of it that I can then apply to models wholesale. Simple. Cheap. Effective. (I mostly use it for small details that are kind of repetitive on WWII ships like anti aircraft guns. I bought a lot of cheap models and worked hard to make them look fancy. But I'm contemplating making my own QT inspired space ships, and that'd be a good way to repeat features.)
 
I've no issue with it, if someone wants a recast warlord titan for 40k more power to em. Mind you, I download movies and music so clearly I have no morals.
 
Quite, I thought it might raise a slight tongue-in-cheek smile :) I've no problem with people doing stuff for themselves, especially when restoring a model.

It's the selling as original that really gets my goat up, I mean even when they are priced at a point that tells you all might not be as it seems. A search today turned up these Plague Bearers on ebay for ahem £16. Totally legit I'm sure.
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What is going on with those feet ... not sure they were cast 30+ years ago and if they were why do a buy-it-now at £16 when you could ask for £45-50 and you'd not be priced above anyone else humm? Humbug. I've got a couple of Ogryn I think are probably recasts of a converted Ogryn, I'm still not quite sure if the seller knew. I'll probably still use them partially because I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable selling them on given my suspicions. There are plenty of certain high value minis on ebay where I'm sure there are too many being sold for them to not be modern re-casts.
Someone was selling the Ral Partha zombie dragon on eBay as oop rare for a pretty penny last week.
 
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