MichaelStockin
Lord
Did GW ever make pike for the Empire in 2nd or 3rd edition?
Pike?
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Fimm McCool
Lord
I don't believe so. The earliest pikes I can think of are the dogs of war unit in 4th.
MichaelStockin
Lord
That was what I was thinking too.
Slave to Darkness
Baron
Slave to Darkness
Baron
Oh hang on, did you mean produce pike minis? I'd say no on that, don't recall seeing any before Dogs of War.
dieselmonkey
Lord
I'm not sure when they stopped selling them, but Citadel sold Ral Partha's Renaissance range under licence in the early 80s and that included some that got used in 1st/2nd ed armies, but technically they were obviously historics.
ManicMan
Lord
F4 Men at arms included some which I would call Pikes in 3ed
Slave to Darkness
Baron
Omg I had 'Mathiew' the crossbowmen as a kid.
dieselmonkey
Lord
They're all halberdiers, not pikes though. Both are polearms, but halberds are shorter and have blades and hooks, as well as a pointy end. Pikes are just pointy and loooooong.
ManicMan
Lord
Ah, so Edmund's spear isn't long enough for a pike? fair enough ^_^ I have no real clue on such things, though hard to see it's a spear tip in that image.. what about some of the Norman Men-at-arms like Wilhelm? (wait.. Wilhelm the Norman?)
dieselmonkey
Lord
Well, the pike wasn't invented until the later middle ages, so if they're Normans they'd definitely have spears!
I think technically a spear becomes a pike when it's too long to be used one-handed, usually over about 10 feet or so. Edmund is holding it with one hand so it's a spear.
I think technically a spear becomes a pike when it's too long to be used one-handed, usually over about 10 feet or so. Edmund is holding it with one hand so it's a spear.
MichaelStockin
Lord
If it aint at least twice as tall as a person it ain't a pike in my book.
Citizen Sade
Baron
Philip II of Macedonia wants a word
FWIW, the Macedonian pike is reckoned to have been ~20' long, was held in two hands and the users carried a small shield too.
dieselmonkey
Lord
And that word was SarissaPhilip II of Macedonia wants a word
, but yes, I should probably have clarified in Western Europe.
Slave to Darkness
Baron
AHH finally, a Warhammer forum with historical smart dudes. Most people I know can't tell the difference between a crossbow and a spoon. Now I just need to find someone knowledgeable on The Barons War, especially what went on in Norfolk.
MichaelStockin
Lord
Well maybe my own forum can help there?
Knowledgeable historical gamers are to be found.
Knowledgeable historical gamers are to be found.
MichaelStockin
Lord
Anyone know how well these scale with Oldhammer citadel?
I am guessing a bit on the small side?
Imperial Realms
Historical miniatures of Rennaissance Europe: Holy Roman Empire, Landsknechts, the Swiss, Polish, and other Mercenaries, mostly from Ral Partha's "Condottieri" range. Fantasy miniatures with similar or compatible appearance also included.
ralparthalegacy.com
I am guessing a bit on the small side?
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MichaelStockin
Lord
Actually don't worry. I will convert old citadel spears and so on into pike.
Don't know what I was thinking using non citadel sculpts...
Don't know what I was thinking using non citadel sculpts...
Brother Meredith
Lord
Ooh! Some fine Tom Meier sculpts there! Shame at 25mm scale, but sure would look ok with earlier Citadel minis?Anyone know how well these scale with Oldhammer citadel?
Imperial Realms
Historical miniatures of Rennaissance Europe: Holy Roman Empire, Landsknechts, the Swiss, Polish, and other Mercenaries, mostly from Ral Partha's "Condottieri" range. Fantasy miniatures with similar or compatible appearance also included.ralparthalegacy.com
I am guessing a bit on the small side?