[WFB3] Points cost for Elites/Characters

Vyper

Vassal
Hello all,

Recently, I've been thinking about how the points values for elite troops and characters are calculated. I realise that the points values can be amended at will to suit my own purposes - such is the glory of Oldhammer - and I'd like your input as I intend to do just that!

I'll use the points value for a human (5) in all my examples except where noted. This is referred to as the Base Cost (BC).

Elites in the Main Rules:
Elites are costed at BC + BC*Elite Level if BC is 10 or less
Characters with BC 10 or more are BC+10*Elite Level

Elites in the Army Book:
Elites are costed at BC + 1*Elite Level.

Characters:
Characters are costed at BC + BC*Character Level if BC is 10 or less
Characters with BC 10 or more are BC+10*Character Level

So it is clear that Elite troops are vastly under-costed in the Army Book compared to the Rulebook - supposedly kept in check by the restrictions of the army lists themselves (which, let's face it are mostly seen as just guidelines anyway). Therefore you end up with situations where you can buy a +4 Elite for 9 points which is almost a match for a 5 Hero at 30pts, lacking only a point of BS or A. This effect is more pronounced the more expensive the model is up to a point.

This also makes low level characters seem over-costed in comparison. You'd never have a 5 Hero leading your +4 Knights, would you? Maybe they are too expensive for what you get?

So I'm throwing this open to the Oldhammer brain trust. How much should Elites and Characters cost, and why?
 
Yeah. the PV system in 3rd basically says "these should be rarer so cost more" - which I disagree with as it conflates tactical (gamist) and economic (narrativist) values of troops, and to me a PV system is just an abstract measure of combat value, and as you say leads to odd situations.

Basically the Elites and Characters should be worth what their profiles are worth, in accordance with the 2nd Ed Points Calculator:

Shock Elite 1 +0.5
Shock Elite 2 +0.75
Shock Elite 3 +1.75
Shock Elite 4 +5.75

Missile Elite 1 +0.25
Missile Elite 2 +0.5
Missile Elite 3 +1.5
Missile Elite 4 +2


(think that's right!)

Then you can use the Hero advance schemes on-top of the Elite advances to create Missile Elite Major Hero or whatever and remain consistent within the system :ugeek:
 
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