Vallejo kinda just annoyed me but it's probably my fault

ManicMan

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For my Space Wolves, while it's a fair bit darker then 'traditional' colours for them (well, RT classed them as just being grey, 40K 2nd made them blue-grey... alot of early marine chapters had very simpler colours.. hell, Ultramarine vs Crimson Fists.. only difference was one red hand), I'm pretty happy with it.

So as I'm sorting through alot, and as Space Marines are mostly one base colour with stuff then added, so pretty easy to paint, I decided to use some of the Vallejo colour airbrush paints I got a Christmas. I use Vallejo Model Colour 'Grey blue' for my base, and that set featured an airbrush grey blue. It looked a tiny bit darker to me but that might be because of the formula.. no problem.. So I decided to spray the first two of the ones I had to do...

oh dear.. that isn't the same colour at all.. that is ALOT darker. While there was a number code on the bottle, I didn't take this for being some special thing for the colour itself.. I mean, the grey-blue model colour is 70.943, and my gloss black is 70.861.. no colour system I'm aware of has a colour system which would have them THAT close. and all the airbrush ones are 71.0XX So.. just expected it was product ID more then anything to do with colour.. So I expected if they both have the same colour name 'Grey Blue', they would be the same colour.. but nope..

kinda leaves me with the choice of either painting over the base with a new base, or maybe trying to work with that and use the normal grey blue on top with the darker one as more shadows.. how this will affect the wash, I'm not sure.. but sigh.. it's very annoying..

I can understand having slightly different colour differences between companies, but a company products the SAME colour name in two types (Airbrush, and standard Acrylic) yet be almost a completely different colour is... very very annoying. Kinda expected something better from Vallejo.. Both are pretty new so not really some formula change..
 
They recently (ish) changed the formula on their game colour and the same actual paints with the same codes are very different.
That annoyed me a treat.
 
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Eric

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Yes, the recent re-formulation was a PIA for colour matching, new paints are nice however!

The naming can be a bit all over the shop - some are just badly translated from the Spanish. Game Colour and Game Air were fairly 1:1 I thought for the most part (although there are fewer Game Air paints). I've fewer Model Air and Model Colour paints in my collection, but I know they don't really align that well. I feel your pain.
 

ManicMan

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grey blue model colour is 'Azul Gris' which would be more.. mm.. Sky Blue - grey.. As Azure is lighter then pure blue.. as said to be like the sky so.. sky blue, using my basic Spanish..
where the air brush one is... 'Azul Gris'... which discounts the translation ^_^;

So annoying when you finally get it into your head to MOST of the time, write down what colours you use and by who so if you need to regiment paint or something, you can easily match, and then they don't keep standard naming..

atleast when Citadel screw up their paints, they rename them. Like how they used to do a pure rich blue, then decided every colour needs to be darker.. But I got the Army Painter Viking Blue which is kinda the best pure rich blue I could find at the time and still got the bottle (though starting to run a bit empty) but it was a hell of a time to find a decent blue at the time.
 
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