ManicMan
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I decided, for some reason I can't figure out, I want to go to my old 'childhood' Skaven army and work on it. get a decent force, paint up some stuff that needs it etc. Not a project that is gonna be any speed to it but.. maybe I can work on getting things sorted out so I can be a bit faster painting (one problem is limited space to put figures while I paint them.
First thing i thought about was to try and work out a Legal army. Since my WH was 4th Ed, so individual army books, I used my Skaven Army book.. Found a couple of old army lists tucked into the pages and had a bit of a laugh at how.. they aren't techinally legal. the percentages don't seam to add up. I would have to double check 3rd Edition but Pretty sure 3rd ed didn't have have percentage rules. If people that don't remember (and just put this in a nice way), one of the parts of the more rule focued limits of 4th Ed was a limit on what percentage of your army points can be spend on varies types of figure. I think it was pretty universal (can't remember and can' be arsed to see if I can dig out one of my father army books.. I think he had Empire and maybe Elves for 4th Ed). a Maximum of 25% could be spend on Characters, 25% on War Machines, 25% on Monsters, and a minimal of 25% on Regiments. In a way, this can be a good thing as some more power characters can be seen as... over-powerful for the points but oh well... I probebly didn't play with people who were that strick anyway. (also I think up to 25% 'allies' but i'm not bothering with them for now)
Trying to work what i felt was decent sizeable army.. Oh dear.. Some figures I knew I had and wanted to include (knowing they would need re-painting) meant I got to 6565 points, with 28.90% of the army being characters.. and that didn't include some i wanted to put it (regiments don't have any champions, but most have a standard, and no musician but i never really used them myself.. probebly a mistake but oh well.
Right.. so kinda gave up on the legal list side (though i can probebly tweak it a bit to get around a 7000 point army but.. yeah.. that's pretty big I think.. not used to playing with much better then a 3000 point army.. but might tweak the list, Like I said.
I worked out some basics for what I want, this is mostly a bit of everything so I have something valid for if i ever get to field an army again..
I'll Start on Characters. Most of them are Special Characters, again something while in 3rd ed, more of a 4th thing, when they pre-made customised characters to be certain ones.
Leading the Army is the Grey Seer Thanquol, with Rat Ogre Bodyguard Boneripper.. boy, they have butched him over the years.. looks like they do that alot.. I have the originals for both Figures. Thanquol needs a complete repaint, BoneRipper is good to go. At the time, some of the more priecy figures (hey, I was young. something like Bone Ripper was a special buy) were painted by a older friend. 3 of my Skaven are done that way.
Next, Lord Skrolk, Plaguelord. He can only be used if a Regiment of Plague Monks are included so that added some Plaguemonks to my list. I have one Plague Monk who is already painted. The local shop had some 'older' figures pro-painted (or atleast, local shop painter) for a not too bad price and I had two figures like that. My painting was really REALLY bad at the time and not as enjoyable as I find I now. It was the 90s ^_^; But that adds a unit of 5 Plague Monks as well as Skrolk, making 6 which is an annoy number but oh well.
Next is DeathaMaster Snikch, with a unit of 5 Gutter Runners. My Snikch needs a complete repaint and I don't have any gutter runners painted up (well.. kinda one) but i don't think i have many, so I'll have to see about getting some at some point.
Finishing off the Characters (even though i've said about Regiments a bit) is the Vermin Lord (Friend Painted), a Army standard, and a spare Grey Seer for something which is probebly pretty clear but will come up later.
Now to Regiments.. As well as the 5 Plague Monks and 5 Gutter Runners, I've worked out for..
3 Units of 20 Clanrats, each including a standard
1 unit of 10 Clanrats, with standard
1 unit of 20 Stormvermin (which is a limit on them) including a standard
1 unit of 2 Packmasters with 4 Rat Orges
1 unit of 2 Packmasters with 5 Giant Rats
2 units of 30 Skaven Slaves, but i might cut that down to 1 unit..
1 unit of 5 Poison Wind Globadiers.
moving to 'war machines'
2 Warpfire Thrower Teams
2 Jezzail Teams
1 Doomwheel (friend painted)
1 Screaming Bell. The Screaming bell is what the spare Grey Seer is for. I have another Grey Seer figure but didn't have the points for him really.
then finally, to round it up, 1 unit of 20 Rats in a Rat Swarm. Annoyingly, I'm being a bit of an idiot in trying to remember if Swarms use normal 25mm bases (so 20 bases) or use bigger bases.. I'm pretty sure the standard smaller ones..
So.. a quick Tally of miniatures for this:
6 Characters (No counting the second Grey Seer as he is on the Screaming Bell)
5 Plague Monks
70 Clanrats
20 Stormvermin
5 Gutter runners
4 Packmasters
4 Rat Ogres
5 Giant Rats
60 Slaves (maybe 30)
5 Poison Wind Globadiers
20 Rat Swarm bases.
now.. out of this.. what do I already have.. sigh.. Tomorrow, I'll be counting up Clanrats.. I have a whole load of AHQ Skaven, most painted but will need tweaking or just paint repainting.. also, all on round bases so i'll probebly change the bases on all of them. I have a bunch of Fantasy Regiment Skaven, I have some 4th Ed Plastic Clanrats, which are the remake of the AHQ ones, I had some.. pretty iffy 5th Edition skaven.. ones that are more.. weasel like.. Might be good for Slaves (hey, no-wonder they are the lower classes.. look how skinny and stuff they are ^_^)
I think, in total it should deal with a good amount of the clanrats and some slaves. I know some need painting (like i said), and some need shields added (some of the Fantasy regiment skaven have Goblin shields which is completely fine with me. Original stuff for Skaven said how alot of there clothes and stuff was gathered from the battle fields.. No problem some have nice shields they found laying around or stole from captured enemies.)
I have the Doomwheel and Screaming Bell but no warpfire or jezzail teams.. However, I have some Blacktree 'Ver'min' on the way so that'll deal with some of them (also two of the Rat Orges). I have an old 3ed Editonal Rat Orge too, so that leaves one.. and oh, i recently got one which i think is 5th ed, but not as bad as later ones where they are all half robotic with stitches and stuff.. I got it cheap cause it was missing a foot.. no problem, already started adding a new foot. I also have 2 Globadiers, some giant rats and some GIANT Rats so i might think about adding another regiment of them. and some rats for a swarm, but need more.. Have some loose around the place and will have to get some more. I have a Standard which i'll use for the Army Standard, and I have a warlock who.. I don't know if i'll add him as something.. I also have a complete set of the Vermin from The Little Soldier company.. not sure who sculpted them but while not really skaveny, I like the little rats in robes, with a full command set, I can use this nicely.. robes kinda lend themselves to plague monks so I might use some of that.
Still, I'll probebly have to spend some time getting some new figures. I got a few loose ones I need to see what's there, including one which when i looked at it, its a blood bowl skaven.. Wonder what i can use him as..
One problem (in a way) i want to think about is how to compose the units.. Like I said, i have a bunch of AHQ Clanrats.. Do I put them all together as a unit, or mix and match figures... tricky.. Also wondering if some of the AHQ or Fantasy Regiment ones could be tweaked to be a Standard.. kinda thinking no.. well, FR ones maybe, but the AHQ just don't have the pose for sticking a nice standard in.
So.. this probebly won't be updated alot but I don't mind a slow burner project.. not like I don't have a few anyway ¬_¬.. also being trying to figure out a nice 'portable' paint station.. there are times when i'm away from home with a few hours to kill and not really a distraction around, so i could get some painting done.. but having to lug stuff around is tricky.. a nice portable paint station which can hold some paints, brushes and figures would be nice.. but people don't seam to make them.. sounds like a custom job time..
Anyway. Hopefully tomorrow (or Sunday) I'll go through a full list of what figures I have for a tally of what is needed in the end and what I have. Stay Tuned!
First thing i thought about was to try and work out a Legal army. Since my WH was 4th Ed, so individual army books, I used my Skaven Army book.. Found a couple of old army lists tucked into the pages and had a bit of a laugh at how.. they aren't techinally legal. the percentages don't seam to add up. I would have to double check 3rd Edition but Pretty sure 3rd ed didn't have have percentage rules. If people that don't remember (and just put this in a nice way), one of the parts of the more rule focued limits of 4th Ed was a limit on what percentage of your army points can be spend on varies types of figure. I think it was pretty universal (can't remember and can' be arsed to see if I can dig out one of my father army books.. I think he had Empire and maybe Elves for 4th Ed). a Maximum of 25% could be spend on Characters, 25% on War Machines, 25% on Monsters, and a minimal of 25% on Regiments. In a way, this can be a good thing as some more power characters can be seen as... over-powerful for the points but oh well... I probebly didn't play with people who were that strick anyway. (also I think up to 25% 'allies' but i'm not bothering with them for now)
Trying to work what i felt was decent sizeable army.. Oh dear.. Some figures I knew I had and wanted to include (knowing they would need re-painting) meant I got to 6565 points, with 28.90% of the army being characters.. and that didn't include some i wanted to put it (regiments don't have any champions, but most have a standard, and no musician but i never really used them myself.. probebly a mistake but oh well.
Right.. so kinda gave up on the legal list side (though i can probebly tweak it a bit to get around a 7000 point army but.. yeah.. that's pretty big I think.. not used to playing with much better then a 3000 point army.. but might tweak the list, Like I said.
I worked out some basics for what I want, this is mostly a bit of everything so I have something valid for if i ever get to field an army again..
I'll Start on Characters. Most of them are Special Characters, again something while in 3rd ed, more of a 4th thing, when they pre-made customised characters to be certain ones.
Leading the Army is the Grey Seer Thanquol, with Rat Ogre Bodyguard Boneripper.. boy, they have butched him over the years.. looks like they do that alot.. I have the originals for both Figures. Thanquol needs a complete repaint, BoneRipper is good to go. At the time, some of the more priecy figures (hey, I was young. something like Bone Ripper was a special buy) were painted by a older friend. 3 of my Skaven are done that way.
Next, Lord Skrolk, Plaguelord. He can only be used if a Regiment of Plague Monks are included so that added some Plaguemonks to my list. I have one Plague Monk who is already painted. The local shop had some 'older' figures pro-painted (or atleast, local shop painter) for a not too bad price and I had two figures like that. My painting was really REALLY bad at the time and not as enjoyable as I find I now. It was the 90s ^_^; But that adds a unit of 5 Plague Monks as well as Skrolk, making 6 which is an annoy number but oh well.
Next is DeathaMaster Snikch, with a unit of 5 Gutter Runners. My Snikch needs a complete repaint and I don't have any gutter runners painted up (well.. kinda one) but i don't think i have many, so I'll have to see about getting some at some point.
Finishing off the Characters (even though i've said about Regiments a bit) is the Vermin Lord (Friend Painted), a Army standard, and a spare Grey Seer for something which is probebly pretty clear but will come up later.
Now to Regiments.. As well as the 5 Plague Monks and 5 Gutter Runners, I've worked out for..
3 Units of 20 Clanrats, each including a standard
1 unit of 10 Clanrats, with standard
1 unit of 20 Stormvermin (which is a limit on them) including a standard
1 unit of 2 Packmasters with 4 Rat Orges
1 unit of 2 Packmasters with 5 Giant Rats
2 units of 30 Skaven Slaves, but i might cut that down to 1 unit..
1 unit of 5 Poison Wind Globadiers.
moving to 'war machines'
2 Warpfire Thrower Teams
2 Jezzail Teams
1 Doomwheel (friend painted)
1 Screaming Bell. The Screaming bell is what the spare Grey Seer is for. I have another Grey Seer figure but didn't have the points for him really.
then finally, to round it up, 1 unit of 20 Rats in a Rat Swarm. Annoyingly, I'm being a bit of an idiot in trying to remember if Swarms use normal 25mm bases (so 20 bases) or use bigger bases.. I'm pretty sure the standard smaller ones..
So.. a quick Tally of miniatures for this:
6 Characters (No counting the second Grey Seer as he is on the Screaming Bell)
5 Plague Monks
70 Clanrats
20 Stormvermin
5 Gutter runners
4 Packmasters
4 Rat Ogres
5 Giant Rats
60 Slaves (maybe 30)
5 Poison Wind Globadiers
20 Rat Swarm bases.
now.. out of this.. what do I already have.. sigh.. Tomorrow, I'll be counting up Clanrats.. I have a whole load of AHQ Skaven, most painted but will need tweaking or just paint repainting.. also, all on round bases so i'll probebly change the bases on all of them. I have a bunch of Fantasy Regiment Skaven, I have some 4th Ed Plastic Clanrats, which are the remake of the AHQ ones, I had some.. pretty iffy 5th Edition skaven.. ones that are more.. weasel like.. Might be good for Slaves (hey, no-wonder they are the lower classes.. look how skinny and stuff they are ^_^)
I think, in total it should deal with a good amount of the clanrats and some slaves. I know some need painting (like i said), and some need shields added (some of the Fantasy regiment skaven have Goblin shields which is completely fine with me. Original stuff for Skaven said how alot of there clothes and stuff was gathered from the battle fields.. No problem some have nice shields they found laying around or stole from captured enemies.)
I have the Doomwheel and Screaming Bell but no warpfire or jezzail teams.. However, I have some Blacktree 'Ver'min' on the way so that'll deal with some of them (also two of the Rat Orges). I have an old 3ed Editonal Rat Orge too, so that leaves one.. and oh, i recently got one which i think is 5th ed, but not as bad as later ones where they are all half robotic with stitches and stuff.. I got it cheap cause it was missing a foot.. no problem, already started adding a new foot. I also have 2 Globadiers, some giant rats and some GIANT Rats so i might think about adding another regiment of them. and some rats for a swarm, but need more.. Have some loose around the place and will have to get some more. I have a Standard which i'll use for the Army Standard, and I have a warlock who.. I don't know if i'll add him as something.. I also have a complete set of the Vermin from The Little Soldier company.. not sure who sculpted them but while not really skaveny, I like the little rats in robes, with a full command set, I can use this nicely.. robes kinda lend themselves to plague monks so I might use some of that.
Still, I'll probebly have to spend some time getting some new figures. I got a few loose ones I need to see what's there, including one which when i looked at it, its a blood bowl skaven.. Wonder what i can use him as..
One problem (in a way) i want to think about is how to compose the units.. Like I said, i have a bunch of AHQ Clanrats.. Do I put them all together as a unit, or mix and match figures... tricky.. Also wondering if some of the AHQ or Fantasy Regiment ones could be tweaked to be a Standard.. kinda thinking no.. well, FR ones maybe, but the AHQ just don't have the pose for sticking a nice standard in.
So.. this probebly won't be updated alot but I don't mind a slow burner project.. not like I don't have a few anyway ¬_¬.. also being trying to figure out a nice 'portable' paint station.. there are times when i'm away from home with a few hours to kill and not really a distraction around, so i could get some painting done.. but having to lug stuff around is tricky.. a nice portable paint station which can hold some paints, brushes and figures would be nice.. but people don't seam to make them.. sounds like a custom job time..
Anyway. Hopefully tomorrow (or Sunday) I'll go through a full list of what figures I have for a tally of what is needed in the end and what I have. Stay Tuned!
Already have the next two projects planned, but after that... 
