Is it right to bring copies of rule book to BOYL?

Asslessman

Asslessman

Baron
Alright gentlemen?

I am raising the quetsion here because in few weeks time, w bunch o fus are going to gather for BOYL, and in a few months time, American Oldhammerers and french oldhammerers are going to do just the same...
We all love our ancient rules and our old books. And because we do like them a lot, we may consider bringing them with us to remote lands...

I love my oldbooks like any other man :

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But I'm going to BOYL with a backpack, a box of models and a good load of refernce sheets , combat cards I've prepared for the games I'm playing or simply GMIng (oh and I'm also bringing a giant killdozer...)
This measn I'll most probably bring printed digital copies (skimmed versions with just the rules and printed on 2 pages per side) for conveniencey. I might bring one of my old books just because I'm a fanboy and i'll want my bunch of signatures and autographs but apart from that, I just can't bring the rogue trader book along with the 6 white dwarves that have the conforntation rules, the Necromunda rules and all the stuff I have to take.

Is this going to be an issue or not? The way I see it , it shouldn't because I own these books and therefore have the right to reproduce them for private use (I think it's written in most of them) but opinions ... you know.
 
I'll second that. We understand that the boolks are big and expensive and rare, so it's unfair to be made to carry them when lighter, easier methods exist. We shall assume that if you have a copy, that your copy has been made from the original, or at least, that you have an original. Also worth noting that Dreamfish has written an accurate summary of the WFB3 rules in a word document, if that makes it easier.
 
Me too. I lost one of my Legends of the old West books some time ago while attending a meeting in Holland, so for me it is always copies I bring to meetings
 
For what it's worth, my opinion is that this could be the start down a slippery slope. Oldhammer has so far flown nicely under the radar with you-know-who, but large gatherings of people with potentially knock-off pdfs of their copyrighted materials is exactly the kind of thing that might encourage them to pay closer attention.
 
I think it is entirely appropriate to bring copies of rules books to a show: only so many of the originals will survive, and the owners of those originals will determine whether future generations will have access to them. I wish I had kept multiple originals to pass on: we did a remarkably eccentric thing when we published those strange books. Make many copies and pass them on, so that future generations might celebrate that eccentricity!
 
Skarsnik & Old Lead":7vw1dsqz said:
For what it's worth, my opinion is that this could be the start down a slippery slope. Oldhammer has so far flown nicely under the radar with you-know-who, but large gatherings of people with potentially knock-off pdfs of their copyrighted materials is exactly the kind of thing that might encourage them to pay closer attention.
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I agree, but I don't think asslessman is talking about file-sharing, but "printed digital copies".

Limited copying for personal study (and soon to be 'format shifting', whether this will include scanning books to pdf, I dunno) is allowable under UK law. Assless was talking about something that is, for all intents and purposes a single, personal, limited (just the rules, not all the art and fluff etc.) photocopy of material he already owns. The intention isn't to replace the original in any way, but to make a copy that is serviceable for study (although not sure a wargames convention is private study). It's extremely limited, and arguably fair dealing (fair use) so I can't see GW being that upset about it, although they could always choose to try to make an example.

Given that pretty much all of the stuff we're talking about is illegally available on the internet (mass distribution, 1:1 replacement of the original), and GW has made little to no attempt to shut those copies down (yet) not sure some guys with a few personal black and white laser prints with highlighter and biro notes are really going to bother them. I have some concern that photos of the event showing copied materials might encourage others to take it for granted that it's the 'done thing', but meh.
 
I'm planning on bringing hard copies of my Fantasy books to the event, but I've also saved those same books to Scribd in my phone so I don't always have to carry the heavy buggers around!

I think we have to accept that lugging multiple hardback books around just isn't practical.
 
Assuming Bryan from Foundry is *the* Bryan, and not just the tea-boy, you've just got the co-author & publisher's permission.
 
A Badger":1hqs9h93 said:
Assuming Bryan from Foundry is *the* Bryan, and not just the tea-boy, you've just got the co-author & publisher's permission.
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I believe the copyright was owned by the business, rather than the individuals (which is usually the case in UK law, unless the IP creator was a freelancer or the employees contract says otherwise), and the IP assets would have sold as part and parcel of the business when Tom Kirby et. al. bought it.

Which is a shame because if Bryan does still retain the rights, then Foundry could be doing reprints and release legal PDFs for us all to buy ;)

OTOH it's great that Bryan as the venue owner is OK with it. Reminds me of those reports of the early days of D&D when entire conventions in the UK were run off some badly mimeographed copies of the rules.

Vyper":1hqs9h93 said:
I think we have to accept that lugging multiple hardback books around just isn't practical.
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But nor is carrying around 100s of delicate, L@@K Rare! OOP, BIN £400 pro-painted, lead-rot-infested miniatures! :grin:
 
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