I'm surprised about the new warhammer 40k

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they're really letting you do whatver you want.... It's actaully kinda friendly to this sort of community.
 
They are introducing a lot of Rogue Trader and 2nd edition elements back into the game and setting in the past few years.
I dropped out when 3rd came in so I'm not really up to speed on how the game plays but there's now a dedicated psychic phase (and cards) just like ye olde days.
 
Ok I'll say by two cents on 7th or 6.5 as its been labled.. is it Oldhammer mind set friendly? I'd say no I'm afraid. A few reasons why:

1: Yes they have somewhat removed restrictions on what you are allowed to take,but this is only because it gets you to buy more of the big ticket items.
2: The game buy in is now £70-£80 before any figure is even bought (Rulebook and codex). I have been priced out of my own Hobby to a large degree.
3: They brought in Allies too further increase sales, not because of demand.
4: The games are getting larger with bigger tanks and flyers, the older games were about story and theme not big crushing games.
5: It's only been less then 2 years since the last edition, another money grab under the guise of fixing problems.
6: Dataslates, they leave items out of a Codex so you have to buy extras to be able to use certain units.

Will I play 7th? Maybe but it'll never be as fun as a game on 2nd sadly :(
 
You're spot on with all that, it's all rather transparent.
The price here in Aussie land is even worse- I'm happy with old rules and OOP minis but I'd like to see the game(s) continue and I don't know how a 12 year old kid could afford half the stuff he'd need for even a modest 40K force here.
 
Chico and Count,

Guys same thoughts here myself, my mates are going berserk over the new rules. Not here though, yes I am working yes I have 3 kids, no I will not pay $140 for a money grab edition of a newish rule set. The ebook thing is not my cup of tea either, White Dwarf used to fill this nicely in the good old days with a new unit here or there. All in all though I won't be playing 6 or the new 6.5 or 7 or 8 or 9. Now where is my copy of RT how it shields me from the darkness of newer editions.

Brett
Stuck in the 80's and 90's and quite happy about it :grin:
 
So I haven't even looked at the rumors of the new rules, but I have to "disagree" about it not being oldhammer mindset friendly because they just want you to spend more money. (Other than the book itself) You don't have to buy new things yet you can still game without the restrictions. So I guess I just don't see their motivation as a reason it's not oldhammer friendly.
 
I am very glad that GW is now letting me do what I want, although I must confess to having been doing what I wanted anyway. But I shall do it with a cleaner conscience now.

I bought the dark vengeance game when it came out. Have not got round to reading the rule booklet yet. I missed out on the only chance i had of being up to date since about 1996. :cry:
 
Yes, being allowed to do what you want is oldhammer friendly...

...but thinking that you need permission to just go ahead and do what you want is against the spirit of oldhammer ;)
 
I've got to admit, I have been tempted to get the new edition of 40K because it seems to throw more than a cursory nod to RT/2nd. Starting to read the Horus Heresy novels hasn't helped stifle this urge, but I doubt I will be buying in. As others have said the cost is way too high as this would be a painting rather than gaming project.

I have a great copy of RT and will probably just buy the Forge World Heresy book for detailed game background, while slowly collecting a Death Guard Legion.
 
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I am very glad that GW is now letting me do what I want, although I must confess to having been doing what I wanted anyway. But I shall do it with a cleaner conscience now.

I bought the dark vengeance game when it came out. Have not got round to reading the rule booklet yet. I missed out on the only chance i had of being up to date since about 1996. :cry:
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:lol:

I nearly bought it, glad I didn't now as I wouldn't have gotten a game in either.
 
New rules oldhammer friendly??? :lol:
O.k. you are quite open about what you do but without buying a lot of army books (hups codices - sound more powerful) you are out of business if you own more than one army.
I love Rogue Trader because of the lack of army books ( o.k. there were some but just a few). The game was more story orientated then the newer versions and in my opinion that is what GW as a whole keeps apart from what GW was 20 years back. All the new shiny books look great but besides the hefty prices what is in there for the "Roleplaying Wargamer" among us??
I love the old books because of not being a mere hack and slash.
 
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It's sort of funny to watch them essentially bring back item after item from 2nd edition, to try and fix the mess that was 3rd.
 
I've played a couple games of 7th and its fun. My favorite edition since 3rd ed. I was reading over the rt rules earlier'in the year and pretty much decided that 6th and now 7th is a less cumbersome version of RT. Flyers and vehicles are much easier to use and dont disrupt the pace of the came while you figure out TRR and ACC/DEC. That being said, modern 40k does not really facilitate the roleplaying aspect that RT does. The psychic phase really adds a strategic element to the game that did not previously exist and I really like it.

Modern 40k is very friendly to a new gamer (rules wise) while RT requires more experienced gamers if you're going to have a good time.
 
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