Crooked Dice - Tavern & Townsfolk

'Regular patron' level stating seven new sculpts by Paul Hicks is an odd way of saying those miniatures were originally released by Westfalia Miniatures years ago. It's nonetheless nice to see them available again.
Took a comparison shot for anyone curious how they'd fit with oldhammer:

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not saying anything against them, but Crooked dice is kinda always a bit... sketchy.. with stuff like that.. among other things.. though some nice stuff
 
Never had a bad experience with them myself and glad to see someone picked up those moulds (and casting in metal rather than resin!).
Just bothered me to see them claimed as new sculpts while making a number about returning Otherworld stuff.
 
So, Crooked Dice are kickstarting a bunch of existing sculpts from the old Otherworld & Westfalia ranges, right? If so, they can bugger right off.
 
Citizen Sade said:
So, Crooked Dice are kickstarting a bunch of existing sculpts from the old Otherworld & Westfalia ranges, right?
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As far as I can tell, yeah. Sculpts are old but who's to say in what condition old moulds were and if new ones were needed.
Unlike Otherworld, Westfalia has, to my knowledge, always cast in resin. Can those same moulds be used to cast metal?

I don't think it's in general unusual for miniature kickstarters being almost finished and rather than starting from the scratch they're meant to secure certain amount of income upfront. Then again I've never backed a single one and don't follow Kickstarter happenings all that much so could be miserably wrong here.

Brother Meredith said:
Westfalia Miniatures do some lovely minis!
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They really do. Shame they seem to be more focused on creating kickstarter project after another rather than keeping lines available on their store, though.
 
Geroak II said:
Never had a bad experience with them myself and glad to see someone picked up those moulds (and casting in metal rather than resin!).
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oh, I don't think I've had a bad experience with them, but they don't "sneaky close" to IP copyright but out right break it and release and produce stuff which is basically knock-off of stuff which CURRENTLY exists, to a point where.. no.. that's just bad. doing 'inspired' minis is one thing, doing stuff which doesn't have or pretty much won't have figures, is the same kinda thing (both iffy but still) but when you do of stuff which has current stuff out there which people have have to pay good money for the license and you just basically tell them to
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is kinda... a different matter in my mind.

Metal spin-cast moulds are different from resin. not too pricey but add in the money for the original sculpts, getting resin masters made (often a good idea) then getting the spin cast moulds and a couple of spins is kinda where alot of the KS money goes for in such a case. As they are selling them as 'new sculpts' which... aren't.. they probably had to buy the masters or something to make new moulds. either way, it is a bit iffy of them to say 'new sculpts' when they aren't.. kinda should just say 'new releases' or something..

Not saying they are a bad company or anything but.. just can be a bit sketchy
 
stupid answer? don't use the name, IP Lawyers not searching to hard or deciding it's not worth it (technically, it is ALWAYS worth it to protect your copyrights else you lose them but plausible deniability)

kinda reminds me that years ago, a comic book editor in chief who's name I won't mention but died recently, was able to put in a 'grant you limited rights for $1 we might forget to collect' which allowed some to do parodies and 'guest stars' without too much trouble AND protecting their rights.. there are also some which if you ask permission, you can get away with 'unofficial' or 'unauthorised'.. thus alot of magazines like say, the Unofficial Pokémon Trading Card game magazine or name-of-pointless-celebrity-I've-never-heard-of unofficial calendar you often see in places. often with bad photos
 
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