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Raffles

Raffles

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Are there any old lore books or novels for Warhammer fantasy? I've read the Konrad novels and Genevieve etc and the earliest Gotrek & Felix was 1999 iirc. Are there any others?

If not, can anyone recommend other fantasy books? Some of the D&D books are quite good and I've been perusing Drizzt Do'Urden but I'm looking for something a bit more dark and grimy. I think you can also see how GW changed over the years as the new Black Library books are a bit cleaner and family friendly compared to the early stuff, the same is also true with the models tbh.
 
Running down my bookshelf I find the following "older" Warhammer fantasy novels:
  • Wolf Riders (1990), edited by David Pringle contains 8 short stories:
    • Wolf Riders, by William King
    • The Tilian Rat, by Sandy Mitchell
    • The Phantom of Yremy, by Brian Craig
    • Cry of the Beast, by Raplh T. Castle
    • No Gold in the Grey Mountains, by Jack Yeovil
    • The Hammer of the Stars, by Pete Garratt
    • Pulg's Grand Carnival, by Simon Ounsley
    • The Way of the Witchfinder, by Brian Craig

  • Ignorant Armies (1989), edited by David Pringle contains 8 short stories:
    • Geheimnisnacht, by William King
    • The Reavers and the Dead, by Charles Davidson
    • The Other, by Nicola Griffiths
    • Apprentice Luck, Sean Flynn
    • A gardener in Parravon, by Brian Craig
    • The Star Boat, by Steve Baxter
    • The Ignorant Armies, by Jack Yeovil
    • The laughter of Dark Gods, by William King

  • Red Thirst (1990), edited by David Pringle contains 6 short stories:
    • Red Thrist, by Jack Yeovil
    • The Dark Beneath the World, by William King
    • The Spells Below, by Niel Jones
    • The Light of Transfigurations, by Brian Craig
    • The Song, by Steve Baxter
    • The Voyage South, by Nicola Griffiths

  • Dracenfels (1989), by Jack Yeovil
  • Beasts in Velvet (1991) by Jack Yeovil
  • Genevieve Undread (1993), by Jack Yeovil

  • Zaragoz (1989), by Brian Craig (Orfeo book 1)
  • Plague Daemon (1990), by Brian Craig (Orfeo book 2)
  • Storm Warriors (1991), by Brian Craig (Orfeo book 3)

  • Konrad (1990), by David Ferring (Konrad book 1)
  • Shadowbreed (1990), by David Ferring (Konrad book 2)
  • Warblade (1993), by David Ferring (Konrad book 3)

All great books, some of which you've obviously already read. Some I expect have newer editions whilst others might require some hunting. I'm a particular fan of the Orfeo series myself. Then of course there are the 40k books and the Dark Future ones.
 
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Do we include fluff and lore stories found in some white dwarf, early rule books, campaign books etc?
 
ManicMan said:
Do we include fluff and lore stories found in some white dwarf, early rule books, campaign books etc?
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I'm more interested in particular characters and how they interact with the old fantasy world than general lore tbh.

DnD is a fair bit older so with fiction so I may try delving into that a bit more.
 
EricF said:
Running down my bookshelf I find the following "older" Warhammer fantasy novels:
  • Wolf Riders (1990), edited by David Pringle contains 8 short stories:
    • Wolf Riders, by William King
    • The Tilian Rat, by Sandy Mitchell
    • The Phantom of Yremy, by Brian Craig
    • Cry of the Beast, by Raplh T. Castle
    • No Gold in the Grey Mountains, by Jack Yeovil
    • The Hammer of the Stars, by Pete Garratt
    • Pulg's Grand Carnival, by Simon Ounsley
    • The Way of the Witchfinder, by Brian Craig

  • Ignorant Armies (1989), edited by David Pringle contains 8 short stories:
    • Geheimnisnacht, by William King
    • The Reavers and the Dead, by Charles Davidson
    • The Other, by Nicola Griffiths
    • Apprentice Luck, Sean Flynn
    • A gardener in Parravon, by Brian Craig
    • The Star Boat, by Steve Baxter
    • The Ignorant Armies, by Jack Yeovil
    • The laughter of Dark Gods, by William King

  • Red Thirst (1990), edited by David Pringle contains 6 short stories:
    • Red Thrist, by Jack Yeovil
    • The Dark Beneath the World, by William King
    • The Spells Below, by Niel Jones
    • The Light of Transfigurations, by Brian Craig
    • The Song, by Steve Baxter
    • The Voyage South, by Nicola Griffiths

  • Dracenfels (1989), by Jack Yeovil
  • Beasts in Velvet (1991) by Jack Yeovil
  • Genevieve Undread (1993), by Jack Yeovil

  • Zaragoz (1989), by Brian Craig (Orfeo book 1)
  • Plague Daemon (1990), by Brian Craig (Orfeo book 2)
  • Storm Warriors (1991), by Brian Craig (Orfeo book 3)

  • Konrad (1990), by David Ferring (Konrad book 1)
  • Shadowbreed (1990), by David Ferring (Konrad book 2)
  • Warblade (1993), by David Ferring (Konrad book 3)

All great books, some of which you've obviously already read. Some I expect have newer editions whilst others might require some hunting. I'm a particular fan of the Orfeo series myself. Then of course there are the 40k books and the Dark Future ones.
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Thank you, that's a great list. I'll see if I can acquire some of the ones you've mentioned.
 
alot of the rule books and some campaigns etc, have stuff like that ^_^ But i would say, if you wanna compare to DnD, look more at Fantasy Roleplay. Early DnD took alot from the 'fans', where Citadel seamed less likely to do that for some reason.. not saying that didn't take some from places but less directly from what fan stuff was published
 
Raffles said:
If not, can anyone recommend other fantasy books? Some of the D&D books are quite good and I've been perusing Drizzt Do'Urden but I'm looking for something a bit more dark and grimy. I think you can also see how GW changed over the years as the new Black Library books are a bit cleaner and family friendly compared to the early stuff, the same is also true with the models tbh.
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I assume you already know A Song of Ice and Fire series? Besides that I'd recommend Raven's Mark series by Ed McDonald. He's a HEMA practitioner and his novels are quite a page turners.
 
I've enjoyed the Winter of the World series from Michael Scott Rohan. If you are extra lucky you might even find them all in the Ian Miller cover artwork (says the sucker for a bit of Ian Miller art).

I'd certainly second the Song of Ice and Fire, but personally I felt it started drifting towards the later books (I felt too much practical magic crept into the characters/story) and the odds of Martin finishing it are low I'd say. Those first few however certainly are gritty and dark in places.
 
If we are talking fantasy fiction... can you go wrong with Robert E. Howard with Kull, Conan & Solomon Kane? depending on how you want to define fantasy (more so as his work.. well, most people think of his 'modern day' stuff, but did stuff from all over) I could add H.P. Lovecraft and while probebly far from the subject, 'Eaters of the Dead'. Michael Crichton's version of the ..ehem.. poem 'Beowulf'. (I'm a bit of a Crichton fan.. I have all his fictional work published under his own name, about half the stuff published under another name, and most of his films.. Don't count just films 'based' on his work like.. well, Jurassic park was a weak film version, the rest of the films were just awful-awful trash. That series based on his film (which he also wrote) 'Westworld' is just an insult.. hell 'futureworld' and 'beyond westworld' (the original series follow up) are much closer and better even though they go in a different direction.. films based on his work but not done by him aren't normally that good.... okay, too much off point now...)
 
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