Black Tree Design (good and bad)

AZ88

Serf
I got my first delivery of Black Tree Design Dwarfs for my project today. Unfortunately, the packing left a lot to be desired. The models had been squeezed into a box that was too small for the order, and as a result they were crushed together and the box bulged - meaning any impact at all would damage them. About half the models in the box were damaged in some way, about half a dozen so badly that they're only any good for conversions or bits, now.

The models that survived their ordeal are really very nice sculpts. The Handgunners are beautiful miniatures, and I'm really looking forward to painting them. Scale is an issue, as there seem to be major differences across the range. I ordered two different regiments and 4 warmachines in m first block, I'd say I got 4 different scales of mini in that lot. This presumably comes from BTD buying ranges from old manufacturers and them not quite fitting, but it may be an issue for some people. Personally, I'm not bothered by it, as I have a general rule with scale. If you have a uniform unit with one big/little guy in it, that model stands out - much like a tall person in a crowd of small people stands out. But i you have a broad mix of sizes in the same unit, with a solid paint scheme, it tends to look normal - much like a mix of people of different heights would.

The Handgunner regiment will go very nicely with Marauder models, as the scale is almost exactly the same. The Gelvarden Handgunners are larger and broader than Marauder Dwarfs, but with a bit of work and in their own unit, they should fit in fine. They are, as with everything else, beautiful sculpts. The tallest dwarf I got (the captain from the Gelvarden unit) is almost twice the height of the smallest (a crewman from the stone thrower), so be aware of that possibility when you order anything.

I have spoken to BTD and their attitude on the phone was very good. They said to just send a list of anything damaged and they'd directly replace it. I'd not bothered to list the things I can repair, as it's not worth troubling them over. My assumption with the packing is that the sale they had recently has caused a bit of a rush and a mistake was made. Not a great excuse, but if they set it right then it's fine. I have another order due in later in the week, so we'll see if it's a recurrent problem.

Without the damage, I'd have been delighted with my order - despite the size issues. I'm planning some minor surgery to fix the worst of that scale problem, and for not much money I've got what amounts to a small army.

If everything gets fixed properly then I'd give them a solid 8/10. Well worth everyone's time to have a look. I'm after some of their warriors next.
 

Chico

Baron
Good report. I vowed to never use BTD again after the problems I had with my last order,3 months waiting for my order to arrive and when it did it wasn't what I ordered not a single pack was correct.

This was way back last October(ish) in there 50% sale but that matters not alot really as they always have a sale on.

They do have some nice Kev Adams Harlequin Greenskins but now as RPE are making Heartbreaker Kev Adams Greenskins which look very similar to the Harlequin ones anyway I'd rather go there :)
 

AZ88

Serf
I assume they've greatly improved their delivery speed, then, as I made my order on the 18th - so it took less than a week for the models to show up.

What did you order from them, and were they decent quality models? I have some more stuff due in this week, like I say, so I'll be interested to have a look at those.
 

Chico

Baron
I ordered some Dark Ages Vikings (Wanted pack 2 and received pack 3, and got Berserker with shields rather then handweapons which I anted) and some Fan Barbarians (All 3 packs were wrong).

The Vikings I used and looked very good as it was for SAGA it made little difference , the Barbarians I traded away on here.

Theres pictures on my Blog: http://oldhammeronabudget.blogspot.co.u ... bel/Viking
 

AZ88

Serf
I rather like those models. I used to have an army back in 3rd (I think it was third) that was based around a Norse clan and they would have fitted in very nicely.

I have to say that my customer service experience with Black Tree has, thus far, been excellent. Mistakes will happen (though I quite understand that waiting 3 months for the wrong models to show up is a tad much), but I tend to judge companies on how they fix them when they happen. If everything continues along this line I'll very probably use them again....as long as my replacements show up in one piece.
 
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