Allies and Mercenaries for Lost and the Damned?

urion

urion

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I have a question for those of you who play a 3rd edition Nurgle or Tzeentch army based on the Lost and the Damned army lists. In Slaves to Darkness the army lists for Khorne and Slaanesh are described very well and specifically. In Lost and the Damned the lists aren't as clear. Neither Nurgle nor Tzeentch are given an ally list or the option to take mercenaries. How do those of you who play Nurgle or Tzeentch handle taking allies or mercenaries? I know most people have the "its 3rd edition so do whatever you want" answer, but I'm looking more for how people who actually play the two armies handle allies and mercenaries. Do you make your own allies list based on Slaves to Darkness, which is probably what I'll do, or do you do it in a different way, or do you just not use allies? I don't have Warhammer Armies so if there is an answer in there that is probably why I don't know it. :oops: As it is in Lost and the Damned Nurgle, which is what I play, can't take chaos dwarves, chaos centaurs, minotaurs, Dragon Ogres, Ogres, Mounted chaos thugs, chaos marauders or mounted chaos marauders even as allies.
Thank you for your help. :mrgreen:
 
Urion,

From what I know of StD and LatD is that the last book was written during the transition to 4th/5th edition. This resolved in discrepancies in point values, ally and mercenary lists, chaos Armour, just to name a few. My advice is to use the StD book as the primary book for RoC.

At the time I was writing the RoC implementation for Army Builder I made an Excel sheet and collected all the diferences between both books, compared them and made a modified version of the LatD based on list structure of StD.

You can download it at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/880 ... Lists.xlsx

With the WFB3 Army Builder files you can create the RoC army lists and you can generate RoC Chaos Champions. All army lists are implemented except for Tzeentch. The RoC implementation is not completely finished yet. I lost my mind halfway through.
 
Im not sure what you by handling allies and mercinaries. What do you want to do? Take a slaanesh army with tzeench allies? Or you want to run nurgle mercenaries in your skaven army? I highly recommend that you have a look at the allies and mercinaries lists rules in warhammer armies (you can find digi-versions online easily). Usually the rules are that you have to spend a certain portion of your total army points on the allied contingent, and you have to take a major hero as leader. The entries are usually pretty bog standard, so as long as you conform to the points limits and dont take anything silly then it should be fine to just pick from the standard army list.
 
whiskey priest":ww0kyuo4 said:
@dreamfish - LatD certainly came out during 3rd Edition. It has the best 3rd ed reference sheet of all the publications in the back so there's no mistaking it.
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I'm not saying it didn't. It was certainly a book meant to be for 3rd edition. I'm meant that some new methods where clearly being used in the book that where later further worked out in 4th/5th edition. For example moving away from the 3rd edition point system and an attempt to introduce combined unit size/point values. I remember seeing something similar for an transitional army list for 4th edition in a WD publication. Dropping the mercenaries and allies lists seems to be in line with what happened in later editions, not explicitly stating them etc.
 
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